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Suppressor Friendly Ranges
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Massivedesign
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Location: Olympia, WA Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 Posts: 38335
Real Name: Dan
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Sun Dec 29, 2013 7:12 am |
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shootin straight
Location: Arlington Joined: Mon Dec 2, 2013 Posts: 85
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Skagit Shooting Range is suppressor friendly
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Wed Sep 10, 2014 8:16 pm |
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hotSAUCE
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Location: All Over Joined: Tue Feb 12, 2013 Posts: 699
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Is there reasons why a range wouldn't/couldn't allow you to use one?
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Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:59 am |
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MadPick
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Location: Renton, WA Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 Posts: 52242
Real Name: Steve
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hotSAUCE wrote: Is there reasons why a range wouldn't/couldn't allow you to use one? Nowadays ... I would sure hope not. But who knows, there are probably some that are still behind the curve. This thread was started a few years back, before suppressor usage was accepted and common in Washington.
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Thu Sep 11, 2014 1:26 pm |
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Powderman
Location: WA State Joined: Fri Feb 8, 2013 Posts: 658
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I am VERY surprised that no one has posted Evergreen Sportsman's Club yet.
Quite possibly the most suppressor friendly range in WA!
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Thu Sep 11, 2014 4:09 pm |
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Curmudgeon
Location: South King County Joined: Wed Jul 27, 2011 Posts: 36
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Black Diamond Gun Club is now friendly towards suppressors after some convincing. Board has changed it's rules about them to be allowed. RO may just ask if you have your paperwork, doesn't need to see it, just wants to know if you have it...
_________________ "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.."-- Winston Churchill
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Sun Dec 21, 2014 11:31 am |
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MadPick
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Location: Renton, WA Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 Posts: 52242
Real Name: Steve
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Curmudgeon wrote: Black Diamond Gun Club is now friendly towards suppressors after some convincing. Board has changed it's rules about them to be allowed. RO may just ask if you have your paperwork, doesn't need to see it, just wants to know if you have it... I'm concerned why it would take "convincing" at all . . . is there ANY reason that they wouldn't want a suppressor shot there? Are we going to have the same resistance to SBRs?
_________________SteveBenefactor Life Member, National Rifle AssociationLife Member, Second Amendment FoundationPatriot & Life Member, Gun Owners of AmericaLife Member, Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear ArmsLegal Action Supporter, Firearms Policy CoalitionMember, NAGR/NFGRPlease support the organizations that support all of us.Leave it cleaner than you found it.
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Sun Dec 21, 2014 1:20 pm |
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Curmudgeon
Location: South King County Joined: Wed Jul 27, 2011 Posts: 36
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The few main reasons the club was concerned about "allowing" them was the uncertainty of what the new law did not state. The club was concerned about what it's liability or risks were, like if a suppressor was left at the range or sharing a suppressor with other shooters. Once those issues were fully discussed openly with knowledgeable people that understood the law, then it was an easy decision to change the club policy to allow suppressors at the range. Now saying this, you must realize that these were not the only reasons for concern, there were a lot of questions from the club members about the law, the changes in the law (before to current), ownership, and that took some time to address that I did not detail here. It was surprising to me how a passive device like a suppressor could be controversial, but it was with some of people who are one type of gun owners who do only one type of shooting. Washington has not been NFA friendly, it is a very misunderstood area of regulation for most firearms owners in this state. The lesson here; be patient and educate those that don't understand NFA regulations. We all need to stick together as firearms owners/enthusiasts...
With respect to SBR's, I don't think it is going to be much of an issue at all. The RO may only ask you if you if you have your paperwork with you just like the suppressor.
What I do want to leave here with is the impression that BDGC is a well organized club, has good board members, has friendly/knowledgeable RO's and is able to change with the improvements in Washington State laws for firearms owners. All clubs have struggles with change from time to time, this was one for BDGC, but it is no longer an issue because of rational folks at BDGC.
_________________ "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.."-- Winston Churchill
“I prefer peace, but if trouble must come, let it be in my time that my children may know peace.” – Thomas Paine
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Sun Dec 28, 2014 10:58 am |
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MadPick
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Location: Renton, WA Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 Posts: 52242
Real Name: Steve
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Good explanation, Curmudgeon. Thank you very much!
_________________SteveBenefactor Life Member, National Rifle AssociationLife Member, Second Amendment FoundationPatriot & Life Member, Gun Owners of AmericaLife Member, Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear ArmsLegal Action Supporter, Firearms Policy CoalitionMember, NAGR/NFGRPlease support the organizations that support all of us.Leave it cleaner than you found it.
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Sun Dec 28, 2014 11:08 am |
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NWShooter
Location: Olympia, WA Joined: Fri Jun 24, 2011 Posts: 68
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Powderman wrote: I am VERY surprised that no one has posted Evergreen Sportsman's Club yet.
Quite possibly the most suppressor friendly range in WA! Yup. Even shut down the range so my son could try his .300 Blackout upper with a suppresser without having to listen to all the regular firing a while back. Come join us.
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Sun Jan 18, 2015 10:42 pm |
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cdoniguian
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Location: Tumwater, WA Joined: Mon Oct 22, 2012 Posts: 3640
Real Name: Chris
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NWShooter wrote: Powderman wrote: I am VERY surprised that no one has posted Evergreen Sportsman's Club yet.
Quite possibly the most suppressor friendly range in WA! Yup. Even shut down the range so my son could try his .300 Blackout upper with a suppresser without having to listen to all the regular firing a while back. Come join us. Umm, what? The rifle/pistol range was closed for you personally? Please explain further. You can PM me if that is preferable. Thank you.
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Mon Jan 19, 2015 1:03 am |
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NWShooter
Location: Olympia, WA Joined: Fri Jun 24, 2011 Posts: 68
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cdoniguian wrote: NWShooter wrote: Powderman wrote: I am VERY surprised that no one has posted Evergreen Sportsman's Club yet.
Quite possibly the most suppressor friendly range in WA! Yup. Even shut down the range so my son could try his .300 Blackout upper with a suppresser without having to listen to all the regular firing a while back. Come join us. Umm, what? The rifle/pistol range was closed for you personally? Please explain further. You can PM me if that is preferable. Thank you. Sure. The RO shut down the line for a few minutes so everyone could hear how quiet this thing was. Then it was back to normal. No biggie. Sorry I took so long replying to this.
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Sat Apr 01, 2017 8:22 pm |
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cdoniguian
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Location: Tumwater, WA Joined: Mon Oct 22, 2012 Posts: 3640
Real Name: Chris
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Excellent! That might have been me. We love to see suppressors at ESC.
_________________ Chris
NRA Range Safety Officer NSSF Member SAF Defender's Club - Life member US Navy - 1976-1982
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Sun Apr 02, 2017 9:21 am |
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Highway
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Location: Auburn Joined: Thu Jan 28, 2016 Posts: 163
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I would be very careful about shooting anything black rifle at Black Diamond Gun club. I use to shoot trap there and it was a good atmosphere for that, but if there ever was a range that deserved the title "FUDD Range", it would be Black Diamond.
A case in point. My gunsmith recently built a AR15 300blk SBR for a customer. He legally engraved his mfg. info. on the bottom lip of the mag well. The laser engraving met ATF standards by all measures. The customer legally took possession of the SBR once his Form 4 cleared. He took it to Black Diamond. Immediately, the range officer (RO) there demands to see the gun. Despite showing the proper paperwork, the RO says that the gun is not properly engraved. According to the RO, it has to be in large font and be visible in a place where he doesn't have to turn the gun upside down. So anywhere on the exterior sides or top would be legal. My gunsmith's customer was asked to leave the range and they threatened to turn him in to the ATF.
So be careful of that place!!!!
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Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:11 pm |
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rumaco
Location: Sequim Joined: Sun Aug 26, 2018 Posts: 128
Real Name: Russell
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Almost all ranges allow them....easier to list those that don't and I know of none....But I may be wrong!
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Thu Dec 20, 2018 4:13 pm |
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