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 2019 Starling Season in Full Swing 
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My hatred for starlings is nurtured... I would LOVE to have every starling in North, South, and Central America killed and burned to ensure that they don't ever return, so I kind of think of it as a crusade.
What I REALLY hate is the effect that this non-native invasive species has done to our native birds.

Here's a good read :
http://www.wildwingco.com/starlings.html

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Though any European Starling kill is acceptable and allowed by law (there are no Fish and Game laws that protect European Starlings), so you can use any means at your disposal to eliminate them from your area. This page is primarily dedicated to thumping European Starling breeders and you should thump them all year long.

However, we need to stay focused on what the primary target is: the females. Below is a scorecard that you can use to visualize which European Starlings are more important to take out of circulation.

European Starling Males: 2 points.
European Starling Fledgelings: 3 points.
European Starling females: 11 points!

For every European Starling female that you take out of breeding circulation, you have effectively removed 11 birds that year, as European Starling females generally lay 2 clutches each year and each clutch generally consists of 5 eggs each. Taking the female out removes 2 clutches so you have effectively scored 11 points.


I believe that there should be a generous bounty paid for fresh killed starlings. I have paid my children $5 each and ($20? Have to ask if they remember) for a breeding pair. Also, an additional $5 -$10 if they brought me a full nest with eggs in it.
Straight into the fire.
My children enjoyed the hunting, and they got free ammo plus the bounty. I think $10 a starling is a fair start for a large bounty program.
They do so much damage to our native birds and to agriculture.

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Mon May 13, 2019 8:36 pm
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PMB recommend this Hatsan Model 95 .22 cal air rifle. Well I finally got one last night. $160.00 at Big 5
I put about fifty rounds through it last night. Sighting it in at 10 yards.
Due to the rain I just shot it in my basement. Against a .22 cal bullet trap.
There is a break in period with these air guns. You need to shoot the oil out of them. And let me tell you that first shot was funcking loud!
I got two chicken a few months back. And the rats really enjoying their food. So that was my motivation for getting this gun. But as of this morning it has already taken care of business.
Four shot group. 10 yards. First shot was the flyer. (Shooting the oil out )
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This morning, threading a 14.3 grn 22 cal pellet through grass and a chain link fence at 6 yards. Lung shot :bigsmile:
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I’ll get it sighted in for at least 25 yards. Then no vermin winged or four legged will be safe !


Thu May 16, 2019 6:55 am
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Starlings are one of four local bird species not protected by the Migratory Bird Act. Others are:
Rock Doves (pigeons)
English Sparrow
Ring Neck Pheasant


All other local birds are protected by federal law.


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gscott wrote:
Starlings are one of four local bird species not protected by the Migratory Bird Act. Others are:
Rock Doves (pigeons)
English Sparrow
Ring Neck Pheasant


All other local birds are protected by federal law.


Just a FYI - while they may not be federally protected, Pheasants are very much regulated by WA state as a game animal with very limited hunting opportunity and a special license. I am not even sure they are legal to hunt outside the release zones?
https://wdfw.wa.gov/sites/default/files ... w02003.pdf

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Eurasian collared dove?

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Four shot group. 10 yards. First shot was the flyer. (Shooting the oil out )
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This morning, threading a 14.3 grn 22 cal pellet through grass and a chain link fence at 6 yards. Lung shot :bigsmile:
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I’ll get it sighted in for at least 25 yards. Then no vermin winged or four legged will be safe !

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Get some!
I got another starling today. They're starting to avoid the compound. :bigsmile:

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Eurasian collared dove?

Yella bellied antifa squab?

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Selador wrote:
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Eurasian collared dove?

Yella bellied antifa squab?


Serious question, are the Eurasian collared doves protected or not?

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PMB recommend this Hatsan Model 95 .22 cal air rifle. Well I finally got one last night. $160.00 at Big 5
I put about fifty rounds through it last night. Sighting it in at 10 yards.
Due to the rain I just shot it in my basement. Against a .22 cal bullet trap.
There is a break in period with these air guns. You need to shoot the oil out of them. And let me tell you that first shot was funcking loud!
I got two chicken a few months back. And the rats really enjoying their food. So that was my motivation for getting this gun. But as of this morning it has already taken care of business.
Four shot group. 10 yards. First shot was the flyer. (Shooting the oil out )
.Image
This morning, threading a 14.3 grn 22 cal pellet through grass and a chain link fence at 6 yards. Lung shot :bigsmile:
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I’ll get it sighted in for at least 25 yards. Then no vermin winged or four legged will be safe !

What sort of velocity is that thing shooting at? I am using a slower shooting pellet gun right now as the fast one made a nasty crack being supersonic. It is quiet enough around here and neightbors on each side I am not wanting to draw attention to me shooting birds in backyard.

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What sort of velocity is that thing shooting at? I am using a slower shooting pellet gun right now as the fast one made a nasty crack being supersonic. It is quiet enough around here and neightbors on each side I am not wanting to draw attention to me shooting birds in backyard.[/quote]

I’m not really sure what the velocity is. But I’d guess around 800. I don’t have a lot of experience with air rifles. Not an expert.
But pellet weight does affect velocity. This gun is .22 caliber and the pellets that I am currently using are 14.3 grains.
As I briefly stated above. When these guns come from the factory they have a fair amount of oil in them.
So your first few shots are as loud as a .22 Long Rifle. This is because the oil creates what they call dieselling.
The oil actually ignites just like in a Diesel engine. So the gun is very loud and inaccurate due to inconsistent muzzle velocity’s.
So a new gun needs to be shot enough to shoot out the oil. I have about 70 pellets through this and it has quieted down a lot.
So in short new guns are noisy.
Not sure what type and caliber of rifle you have. But try a heavier pellet. I’ll recommend Crosman Premier pellets.
And if its so noisy you have not shot it to break it in and shoot out the oil. You should take it somewhere and put at least fifty rounds through it. Oh I just thought of this. When the gun diesels smoke comes from the barrel after each shot. So if your rifle has smoke in the barrel after firing a shot. The gun still has lots of oil in it.


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lamrith wrote:
What sort of velocity is that thing shooting at? I am using a slower shooting pellet gun right now as the fast one made a nasty crack being supersonic. It is quiet enough around here and neightbors on each side I am not wanting to draw attention to me shooting birds in backyard.


I’m not really sure what the velocity is. But I’d guess around 800. I don’t have a lot of experience with air rifles. Not an expert.
But pellet weight does affect velocity. This gun is .22 caliber and the pellets that I am currently using are 14.3 grains.
As I briefly stated above. When these guns come from the factory they have a fair amount of oil in them.
So your first few shots are as loud as a .22 Long Rifle. This is because the oil creates what they call dieselling.
The oil actually ignites just like in a Diesel engine. So the gun is very loud and inaccurate due to inconsistent muzzle velocity’s.
So a new gun needs to be shot enough to shoot out the oil. I have about 70 pellets through this and it has quieted down a lot.
So in short new guns are noisy.
Not sure what type and caliber of rifle you have. But try a heavier pellet. I’ll recommend Crosman Premier pellets.
And if its so noisy you have not shot it to break it in and shoot out the oil. You should take it somewhere and put at least fifty rounds through it. Oh I just thought of this. When the gun diesels smoke comes from the barrel after each shot. So if your rifle has smoke in the barrel after firing a shot. The gun still has lots of oil in it.


Right on. yeah 1st gun I had was a fast shooter by design, 1200fps. so while the gun was quiet, the pellet made a crack downrange. Took that one back for this one that is subsonic. it is quieter for sure, but has not been accurate yet. I did not think they needed so many pellets thru them to get cleaned up, I probably have around 30 thru it at this point, I will put more down range then setup and see about dialing it in. Thanks!

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We have rules here on the Chicken Ranch, and these little critters broke 2 of them.

1. No starlings allowed anywhere on the property for any reason for any length of time. Penalty is immediate occupancy in their appropriate celestial sphere.
2. No coneys within 100 feet (+/- depending on my work load) Penalty is to be cooked for the dogs' next meal.
Taken this morning with a Savage Mark II with Adjustable Accutrigger and a Bushnell 3-9x40mm scope using CCI CB Longs.

I present a brace of coneys and a devil bird.
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The middle creature of the devil was the last surviving adult starling with a nest on the property.

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The last 2 days has been crazy for conejos. I've seen about a dozen running around our area, and many more dead and alive along the roads. Actually saw one on the arrival pick up ramp at SeaTac yesterday morning, outside baggage claim. I've been giving the buns a pass lately, but will always maintain a zero tolerance policy for starlings. Just typing the word makes me cringe.

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Traut wrote:
but will always maintain a zero tolerance policy for starlings. Just typing the word makes me cringe.

My brother. :cheers2:

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