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A.O.
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Location: Tacoma :( Joined: Fri Oct 21, 2011 Posts: 2410
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arrigoni wrote: LEED's has some used stuff, too. Didn't think they let civilians in there... At least they didn't the one and only time I tried to check them out. Quite rude abotu it too, so I never went back.
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Mon Aug 06, 2012 1:12 pm |
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Massivedesign
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Location: Olympia, WA Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 Posts: 38307
Real Name: Dan
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A.Oster wrote: arrigoni wrote: LEED's has some used stuff, too. Didn't think they let civilians in there... At least they didn't the one and only time I tried to check them out. Quite rude abotu it too, so I never went back. Yes they do.. The sign was put in place years ago to keep riff-raff and bangers out. Public is very much allowed.
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Mon Aug 06, 2012 1:31 pm |
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mash man
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Location: Airway heights Joined: Sun Mar 20, 2011 Posts: 12246
Real Name: Michael
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Massivedesign wrote: A.Oster wrote: arrigoni wrote: LEED's has some used stuff, too. Didn't think they let civilians in there... At least they didn't the one and only time I tried to check them out. Quite rude abotu it too, so I never went back. Yes they do.. The sign was put in place years ago to keep riff-raff and bangers out. Public is very much allowed. 100% True. BUT there is some stuff you cant buy in there like some of the guns and what not
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Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:03 pm |
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Benja455
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Location: White Center Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 6489
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Edge of Hell wrote: Thats some funny shit there oster.
Had no idea that armor had a shelf life. Thanks for that info. That's gonna play a big role in what i get, if any now. Lot of coin to throw down for only 7 year life..
More ammo and supplies sounds better too me now.. I've read a number of studies that disprove the "shelf life" concept. The only thing that expires is the warranty.
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Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:11 pm |
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Massivedesign
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Location: Olympia, WA Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 Posts: 38307
Real Name: Dan
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Kevlar isn't a biodegradable product. The 7 year shelf life pertains to frequent use, where the material is subjected to constant heat, cold, moisture (sweat) and movement. Over time, the fibers will start to break down and the reliability of the vest will degrade. The "guarantee" that it will perform as required by NIJ after the 7 years will be gone, but most likely she will still stop a round.
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Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:31 pm |
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tomy salami
Location: Mountus Labias, WA, US fucking A Joined: Wed Nov 9, 2011 Posts: 3390
Real Name: Thomas Sal Lammy
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Massivedesign wrote: Kevlar isn't a biodegradable product. The 7 year shelf life pertains to frequent use, where the material is subjected to constant heat, cold, moisture (sweat) and movement. Over time, the fibers will start to break down and the reliability of the vest will degrade. The "guarantee" that it will perform as required by NIJ after the 7 years will be gone, but most likely she will still stop a round. Shit. I just tossed my sapi plates last week, thinking they were trash.
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Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:57 pm |
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Benja455
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Location: White Center Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 6489
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Massivedesign wrote: Kevlar isn't a biodegradable product. The 7 year shelf life pertains to frequent use, where the material is subjected to constant heat, cold, moisture (sweat) and movement. Over time, the fibers will start to break down and the reliability of the vest will degrade. The "guarantee" that it will perform as required by NIJ after the 7 years will be gone, but most likely she will still stop a round. Exactly. Sunlight, sweat and heat are the biggest problems for Kevlar...but even 11 year old stuff still works: http://bulletproofme.com/Photos/11-Year ... OTOS.shtml
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Mon Aug 06, 2012 4:55 pm |
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MadPick
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Location: Renton, WA Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 Posts: 52032
Real Name: Steve
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A.Oster wrote: arrigoni wrote: LEED's has some used stuff, too. Didn't think they let civilians in there... At least they didn't the one and only time I tried to check them out. Quite rude abotu it too, so I never went back. LOL... Do you look like a gangbanger, by any chance?
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Mon Aug 06, 2012 4:57 pm |
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DblTapp
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Location: Port Orchard, Washington Joined: Wed Jun 29, 2011 Posts: 132
Real Name: N7LWL
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If you stick with kevlar, it will be cheaper in the long run. and Kevlar wears better day to day. But the only thing that will stop .30 cal rounds is ceramic Plate....and you pay alot for what you get. But there is that peace of mind.....until the baddie tries for a head shot
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Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:39 pm |
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Zwitter
Location: Puyallup Joined: Wed Jul 4, 2012 Posts: 1128
Real Name: lower case drew
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A.Oster wrote: arrigoni wrote: LEED's has some used stuff, too. Didn't think they let civilians in there... At least they didn't the one and only time I tried to check them out. Quite rude abotu it too, so I never went back. They do, but I think the armor is LEO only.
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Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:26 am |
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justincredible3
Location: Yelm Joined: Mon Jul 11, 2011 Posts: 2751
Real Name: Eric
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Ehhh I'm faster and a better shot without it!! I do have a personal plate carrier and some plates. Just a condor with plates
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Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:46 am |
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Soldier_Citizen
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Location: south 'merca Joined: Wed Jul 25, 2012 Posts: 9738
Real Name: Mike
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Didn't know you could own armor, everything I look at online says Leo and mil only... The mil even made me had mine back over. Even though it's personal issue
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Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:06 pm |
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JohnnyRico
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Location: Covington Joined: Thu Apr 14, 2011 Posts: 578
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Soldier_Citizen wrote: Didn't know you could own armor, everything I look at online says Leo and mil only... The mil even made me had mine back over. Even though it's personal issue you can own it in most states unless you're a felon. The trick is finding someone to sell it to you - bulletproofme.com is a great resource as is eBay.
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Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:58 pm |
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DS Precision
Location: Maybe I did update my location? Joined: Sat Aug 11, 2012 Posts: 75
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Anyone ever have hands-on with this Dragon Skin stuff? http://www.pinnaclearmor.com/body-armor/dragon-skin/
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Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:15 pm |
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Zwitter
Location: Puyallup Joined: Wed Jul 4, 2012 Posts: 1128
Real Name: lower case drew
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justincredible3 wrote: Ehhh I'm faster and a better shot without it!! I do have a personal plate carrier and some plates. Just a condor with plates What about "swimmer/shooter" cut plates?
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