Am considering some gas masks post COVID for the next round of bullshit, whether it be a nasty volcanic explosion or something biological. I've gotten some mass emails that have some mil surplus masks available. Anyone have any personal knowledge with them?
The Avon M50? This kit is the shiznit. Gotta decon your mask or toss it. Wear glasses? I think these are surplus (read description. Some accessories are used,. Some parts are New Old-stock) That their price INCLUDING a bunch of kit is below Gall's price for just a new mask says a lot
The cm-7m is dual lens and better suited for use with
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Thu Nov 18, 2021 9:51 pm
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Thing about a protective mask is that even though they are noted as "biological", you have to take off your mask sometimes, and it is difficult to know when you are in a hazardous area. It's hard enough with chemical threats with a chemical detector.
I've had to service a number of the M-17 series when I was a private and later on to where I am confident of them, and even current ones with fresh filters, properly fitted, but the filters go out too. Same for M-40 and later M-50 series.
Lots of current ones out there would be good for riot control agents, given fresh, non-training, filters. But upon contact, you might/probably have to change out filters.
But as Mark Koernke says, "how long can you hold your breath?"
Fri Nov 19, 2021 4:11 am
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You better make sure you can breath though them before dumping a bunch of cash. I have a damn good respirator but I cant breathe through it so I had to buy a hooka if I want to paint much.
Fri Nov 19, 2021 6:18 am
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There are a ton of Israeli PP (positive pressure) systems for cheap, that consist of a blower fan of which the filter attaches to, a couple D batteries, and a hose with std 40mm threads that can thread into nearly any mask.... for those who can't handle breathing in one....
Also, stay away from older U.S. 40mm filters in the tin cans.. Some are known to have dangerous levels of metals in them that can lead to serious health issues if actually inhaled..
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Buy once, cry once. Get a good, new, quality mask if you actually want protection. There are plenty of masks, which have already been mentioned, that would serve you far better than the older surplus stuff. The newer low resistance masks, which are easier to breath in, are very nice, especially if you’re actual running or doing any serious movement while wearing the things.
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All you guys clean shaven? I scored a deal on some Israeli masks this last year. But I'll be damned if I'm clean shaven for a good seal when the time comes. A whole tub of Vaseline isn't going help me get a seal.
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What filters? How many did you get? I'm leaning towards a new Mira Safety mask.
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Thu Jun 22, 2023 2:32 pm
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I purchased several expired ones off ebay for general painting, etc. Only had 1 out of about ?6? be bad. Have cracked one open for paint use and it's something I wish I knew about years ago. Zero fumes.
If you are really interested I can take some photos.
Thu Jun 22, 2023 4:56 pm
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Gas Mask and filter pictures. Don't have the details on the Israeli mask but it works. I would NOT suggest a polish MP5. I bought one and adjusting the straps is a total pain. (not pictured) The Sperian mask is nice, good visibility. If I was going to pick one over all it would be this.
CFF3 filters are old French production. Opened one for paint use and it worked just fine. Opened an Israeli filter as well for paint work. zero fumes. I'll keep them long after they no longer hold vapor for work in the attic or sanding. Should work for volcanic ash as well. (That's the point of me having them) As someone on a youtube video stated, the Israeli's assume they will use their gear, so it works.
the multicolor filter that expired in 2010 is a Drager (a umlaut) I have not opened one yet.
Gas masks and their filters are huge rabbit hole to fall down into. Just know Russian standards are not compatible with NATO. Don't mix them.
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Sat Aug 26, 2023 11:32 am
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If you can get a tight seal, and the filter is of hepa quality you should be good...I can talk about micron levels ect all day. In the end having one is better than not....just remember if you are in the market research the filters! And what they are rated for!! And yes you will need to be clean shaven for a proper seal unless you run a positive pressure papr
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