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beckdw
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Location: Tri -Cities Joined: Thu May 23, 2013 Posts: 2798
Real Name: David
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NotAMerc wrote: beckdw wrote: I got...inebriated... the other night and ordered 5 of the Battle Steel level III+ special threat plates that claim to stop M855. I plan on shooting the 5th one...and probably selling two of the remaining ones since I may have gone overboard, lol. Will do a detailed report. Wasn't there someone on here that was selling m855A1 a while back? I'd be curious if they could stop that. There was, Bobbity[sp] maybe? It was a dollar a round or more, but 5x for science wouldn't be bad.
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Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:58 pm |
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ViniVidivici
Location: Puyallup Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2018 Posts: 3026
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Yes, Bobbity was selling some. Not sure if he still has, will ask.
Key rounds would be m855 and m193 (out of a decent 18-20" barrel, mind you). M855a1 would be a bonus.
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Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:11 pm |
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beckdw
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Location: Tri -Cities Joined: Thu May 23, 2013 Posts: 2798
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ViniVidivici wrote: Yes, Bobbity was selling some. Not sure if he still has, will ask.
Key rounds would be m855 and m193 (out of a decent 18-20" barrel, mind you). M855a1 would be a bonus. Yeah, plan on rocking my 18" SPR and seeing if anything I have will defeat it.
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Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:41 pm |
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RocketScott
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Location: Kentucky Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2015 Posts: 11045
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I've got M855 to donate
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Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:56 am |
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SurfPerch
Location: Wetside Joined: Tue Jul 14, 2020 Posts: 942
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_________________ “Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.”
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Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:07 pm |
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SurfPerch
Location: Wetside Joined: Tue Jul 14, 2020 Posts: 942
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NotAMerc wrote: I am by no means a fountain of cash, but I'd be willing to chip in $50. The main question would be how well it stops 5.56, either 55 or 62 grain. I'm in for $50. Four more interested folks with the same pledge and we have a test shoot party! :)
_________________ “Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.”
― Ronald Reagan Oct. 27, 1964
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Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:19 pm |
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NotAMerc
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Esstac has some of their Daeodon ASS carriers in Multicam in. Their a local company so anyone that wants to buy local here's your option https://esstac.com/daeodon-ass/
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Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:13 am |
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movingviolation
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Location: Bonney Lake Joined: Fri Oct 21, 2011 Posts: 3294
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Quote: Daeodon ASS carriers simple may be good, but damn, $240? front mag panels extra. no drag handle either. and it wouldn't freaking hurt to put up a few pictures of it...
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Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:44 am |
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ViniVidivici
Location: Puyallup Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2018 Posts: 3026
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They're very well-made though, worth every penny.
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Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:53 am |
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beckdw
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Location: Tri -Cities Joined: Thu May 23, 2013 Posts: 2798
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Got my Battle Steel III+/STR (Special Threat Rated) plates today. I ordered and paid for the single curve basic model, but ended up getting the polyurethane sealed multi curve plates. Looking forward to the testing. They state they are Polyurethane constructed, nothing about ceramic. I find this very interesting since most higher cost plates that are STR for M855 have ceramics. I know my Hesco L210s have ceramics, but are thinner by .2" and cost $60 more.
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Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:00 pm |
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jukk0u
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Location: Lynnwood and at large Joined: Wed May 1, 2013 Posts: 21147
Real Name: Vick Lagina
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Some discussion of their NIJ claims on Arfcom - Spoiler: show
- https://www.ar15.com/forums/Armory/Battle-Steel-Level-III-Plates/10-494867/
Your BS plates say the manufacturer certifies that the plates were tested (by whom?) to NIJ standards. What's the wording on your Hesco plates?
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FJB
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Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:59 pm |
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ViniVidivici
Location: Puyallup Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2018 Posts: 3026
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That's wierd, those look exactly like a III+ plate they make, which is ceramic/PE, but that label implies these're PE only.
Also looking forward to the test results!
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Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:49 pm |
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beckdw
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Location: Tri -Cities Joined: Thu May 23, 2013 Posts: 2798
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jukk0u wrote: Some discussion of their NIJ claims on Arfcom - Spoiler: show
- https://www.ar15.com/forums/Armory/Battle-Steel-Level-III-Plates/10-494867/
Your BS plates say the manufacturer certifies that the plates were tested (by whom?) to NIJ standards. What's the wording on your Hesco plates? They aren't NIJ certified, no III+ is, NIJ only certifies III, or IV. They have sent TEST plates to labs that do NIJ certifications (they used to claim NTS Chesapeake in their descriptions) which is where their claims come from. From Hesco's website re the L210: "NIJ Standard-0101.06: Special threat testing conducted in accordance with NIJ Standard-0101.06 (modified)." I.E. no certification either because they are III+/STR. Anyone can have plates tested, but the certification process includes NIJ inspectors being able to pull random plates off your assembly line and test them (my understanding) and NIJ doesn't have any rating between III and IV in the ".06" ratings. They are developing/have developed a ".07" rating system that will certify plates between III & IV.
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Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:28 pm |
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jukk0u
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Location: Lynnwood and at large Joined: Wed May 1, 2013 Posts: 21147
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nice. Thank you.
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"The said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms." ~ Samuel Adams
“A return to First Principles in a Republic is sometimes caused by simple virtues of a single man. His good example has such an influence that the good men strive to imitate him, and the wicked are ashamed to lead a life so contrary to his example. Before all else, be armed!” ~ Niccolo Machiavelli
Láodòng zhèng zhūwèi zìyóu
FJB
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Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:34 pm |
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beckdw
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Location: Tri -Cities Joined: Thu May 23, 2013 Posts: 2798
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ViniVidivici wrote: That's wierd, those look exactly like a III+ plate they make, which is ceramic/PE, but that label implies these're PE only.
Also looking forward to the test results! Where did you see those? I can't find any BS III+ on Botach making the claim with ceramics.
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