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Awh crap... I forgot to ask you guys to look at and ask questions, like availability, on the KelTek P17.

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RocketScott wrote:
Funny that they wouldn't let you take pictures of the steel lipped mags. They posted about a hybrid mag a while ago

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Yup, that’s exactly what it looked like!

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Any chance to measure the trigger pull on the actual Ruger 57 that Ruger has in their booth?
I've read that demo pistols and those they sent to professional reviewers have under 4 lbs triggers and stock ones are 5.5...


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WTF?? $400 for a rifle AND suppressor? Seems pretty darned reasonable to me!

Take my money!!!!


I corrected my post above. We found out today that the $400 price tag is for the integrally suppressed barrel ONLY. You buy the basic rifle separately. DAMMIT!!

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surevaliance wrote:
Any chance to measure the trigger pull on the actual Ruger 57 that Ruger has in their booth?
I've read that demo pistols and those they sent to professional reviewers have under 4 lbs triggers and stock ones are 5.5...

I cant speak for the other guys but I did not bring a trigger pull gauge to Vegas with me. That being said the trigger on the Ruger Five Seven is very good for a polymer gun. I was able to achieve hit(s?) on a steel silhouette at 100yds with the 57 on range day which is really saying something as I’m not a very good shot with pistols.

It’s a good trigger on a great pistol.

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MadPick wrote:
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If you guys happen by the Zastava USA table could you please hassle them about bringing in their stainless M70 Mauser that they sell all over the rest of Europe and the Commonwealth and also barreled actions?

Their catalog alleges that they sell blued barrelled actions in the US but they're not very good about answering emails. That would be ok for my project but what I'd really like is a stainless one.

Thanks and have fun!

Also, pls ask then what the hell happened to their "soon-to-be-released" PPZ pistol that they were planning to make in 9x19, .45 ACP and possibly 7.62x25 Tok.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zastava_PPZ

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Ok, MyNameIs940 and I talked to Zastava.

M70 stainless action: Yes, it’s in work to sell in the US but they don’t have a time frame right now. They sell the blued rifles now; blued actions will come first, then stainless.

PPZ: Still a “future gun,” still hopefully in Tokarev, but they don’t know if this will become a reality or not.


You guys didn't happen to pick up a business card, did you? Always better to email a real person than to use thier stupid web form. I'm not convinced anyone reads theirs...


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I don’t have a Zastava business card ... but MyNameIs940 might...?

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This is cool.

New GLOCK 43 80% Frame Will Let You Use SIG P365 10, 15-Round Magazines in your G43
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MadPick wrote:
I don’t have a Zastava business card ... but MyNameIs940 might...?


Bags all packed to head home tomorrow but I’ll check when i get home


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Hey guys,
Remember the CZ integrally suppressed rimfire rifles? Were they offering just barrels seperately in addition to the $400 rifles? Also, maybe a dumb question, but when you buy an integrally suppressed model, do you still have to do all the silencer forms, trust, waiting, etc.?

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Traut wrote:
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Remember the CZ integrally suppressed rimfire rifles? Were they offering just barrels seperately in addition to the $400 rifles? Also, maybe a dumb question, but when you buy an integrally suppressed model, do you still have to do all the silencer forms, trust, waiting, etc.?


Yes, you have to buy the barrel and the rifle. So it’ll end up being around $1000 depending on what rifle you want to get.

Not a dumb question, but yes it’s still a silencer so you have to do a form 4, send fingerprints, photo and $200 to the atf for the transfer. You don’t have to do a trust but I highly suggest trusts. Right now the wait on a form 4 is 300 days average.


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Can you guys go by the Polymer80 booth (10326) and kick them square in the nuts?

They are the source of the misinformation about shipping 80% receivers to WA. I wouldn't care if they decided not to ship here on their own but they doled out legal advice to a bunch of other vendors so that they won't ship here either

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Can you guys go by the Polymer80 booth (10326) and kick them square in the nuts?

They are the source of the misinformation about shipping 80% receivers to WA. I wouldn't care if they decided not to ship here on their own but they doled out legal advice to a bunch of other vendors so that they won't ship here either


I talked to them a couple of days ago. I didn't get into it, but I started the conversation with, "I'm a big fan of your stuff, but I'm in Washington so we need to get it through back-door channels now since you won't ship to us."

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MadPick wrote:
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Can you guys go by the Polymer80 booth (10326) and kick them square in the nuts?

They are the source of the misinformation about shipping 80% receivers to WA. I wouldn't care if they decided not to ship here on their own but they doled out legal advice to a bunch of other vendors so that they won't ship here either


I talked to them a couple of days ago. I didn't get into it, but I started the conversation with, "I'm a big fan of your stuff, but I'm in Washington so we need to get it through back-door channels now since you won't ship to us."

Please go back and kick them in the nuts, as RocketScott requested. Use logging boots and a running start.


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