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WaGuns goes to SHOT - 2020
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AR15L
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Location: Nampa, Idaho Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 19386
Real Name: Rick
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Awh crap... I forgot to ask you guys to look at and ask questions, like availability, on the KelTek P17.
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Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:01 am |
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MadPick
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Location: Renton, WA Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 Posts: 51917
Real Name: Steve
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RocketScott wrote: Funny that they wouldn't let you take pictures of the steel lipped mags. They posted about a hybrid mag a while ago Yup, that’s exactly what it looked like!
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Thu Jan 23, 2020 2:16 pm |
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surevaliance
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Location: AZ Joined: Fri Aug 17, 2018 Posts: 6763
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Any chance to measure the trigger pull on the actual Ruger 57 that Ruger has in their booth? I've read that demo pistols and those they sent to professional reviewers have under 4 lbs triggers and stock ones are 5.5...
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Thu Jan 23, 2020 2:30 pm |
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MadPick
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Location: Renton, WA Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 Posts: 51917
Real Name: Steve
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Guns4Liberty wrote: MadPick wrote: WTF?? $400 for a rifle AND suppressor? Seems pretty darned reasonable to me! Take my money!!!! I corrected my post above. We found out today that the $400 price tag is for the integrally suppressed barrel ONLY. You buy the basic rifle separately. DAMMIT!!
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Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:07 pm |
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Sinus211
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Location: Marysville Joined: Thu Mar 22, 2012 Posts: 13477
Real Name: Mike
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surevaliance wrote: Any chance to measure the trigger pull on the actual Ruger 57 that Ruger has in their booth? I've read that demo pistols and those they sent to professional reviewers have under 4 lbs triggers and stock ones are 5.5... I cant speak for the other guys but I did not bring a trigger pull gauge to Vegas with me. That being said the trigger on the Ruger Five Seven is very good for a polymer gun. I was able to achieve hit(s?) on a steel silhouette at 100yds with the 57 on range day which is really saying something as I’m not a very good shot with pistols. It’s a good trigger on a great pistol.
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Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:31 pm |
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Bilgetroll
Location: The Wet Side Joined: Wed Jan 24, 2018 Posts: 329
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MadPick wrote: surevaliance wrote: Bilgetroll wrote: If you guys happen by the Zastava USA table could you please hassle them about bringing in their stainless M70 Mauser that they sell all over the rest of Europe and the Commonwealth and also barreled actions?
Their catalog alleges that they sell blued barrelled actions in the US but they're not very good about answering emails. That would be ok for my project but what I'd really like is a stainless one.
Thanks and have fun! Also, pls ask then what the hell happened to their "soon-to-be-released" PPZ pistol that they were planning to make in 9x19, .45 ACP and possibly 7.62x25 Tok.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zastava_PPZOk, MyNameIs940 and I talked to Zastava. M70 stainless action: Yes, it’s in work to sell in the US but they don’t have a time frame right now. They sell the blued rifles now; blued actions will come first, then stainless. PPZ: Still a “future gun,” still hopefully in Tokarev, but they don’t know if this will become a reality or not. You guys didn't happen to pick up a business card, did you? Always better to email a real person than to use thier stupid web form. I'm not convinced anyone reads theirs...
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Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:11 pm |
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MadPick
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Location: Renton, WA Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 Posts: 51917
Real Name: Steve
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I don’t have a Zastava business card ... but MyNameIs940 might...?
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Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:59 pm |
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mmalleck
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Location: Bellevue area - WA Joined: Wed Jan 9, 2013 Posts: 1424
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This is cool. New GLOCK 43 80% Frame Will Let You Use SIG P365 10, 15-Round Magazines in your G43 https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/new-g ... g43-video/
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Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:48 pm |
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MyNameIs940
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Location: Kirkland Joined: Wed May 30, 2018 Posts: 820
Real Name: Shawn
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MadPick wrote: I don’t have a Zastava business card ... but MyNameIs940 might...? Bags all packed to head home tomorrow but I’ll check when i get home Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:15 pm |
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Traut
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Location: Downtown Newcastle Joined: Sat Mar 5, 2016 Posts: 3440
Real Name: Traut
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Hey guys, Remember the CZ integrally suppressed rimfire rifles? Were they offering just barrels seperately in addition to the $400 rifles? Also, maybe a dumb question, but when you buy an integrally suppressed model, do you still have to do all the silencer forms, trust, waiting, etc.?
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Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:34 am |
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MyNameIs940
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Location: Kirkland Joined: Wed May 30, 2018 Posts: 820
Real Name: Shawn
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Traut wrote: Hey guys, Remember the CZ integrally suppressed rimfire rifles? Were they offering just barrels seperately in addition to the $400 rifles? Also, maybe a dumb question, but when you buy an integrally suppressed model, do you still have to do all the silencer forms, trust, waiting, etc.? Yes, you have to buy the barrel and the rifle. So it’ll end up being around $1000 depending on what rifle you want to get. Not a dumb question, but yes it’s still a silencer so you have to do a form 4, send fingerprints, photo and $200 to the atf for the transfer. You don’t have to do a trust but I highly suggest trusts. Right now the wait on a form 4 is 300 days average. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Fri Jan 24, 2020 7:37 am |
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RocketScott
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Location: Kentucky Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2015 Posts: 11045
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Can you guys go by the Polymer80 booth (10326) and kick them square in the nuts?
They are the source of the misinformation about shipping 80% receivers to WA. I wouldn't care if they decided not to ship here on their own but they doled out legal advice to a bunch of other vendors so that they won't ship here either
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Fri Jan 24, 2020 8:07 am |
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surevaliance
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Location: AZ Joined: Fri Aug 17, 2018 Posts: 6763
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Fri Jan 24, 2020 8:42 am |
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MadPick
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Location: Renton, WA Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 Posts: 51917
Real Name: Steve
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RocketScott wrote: Can you guys go by the Polymer80 booth (10326) and kick them square in the nuts?
They are the source of the misinformation about shipping 80% receivers to WA. I wouldn't care if they decided not to ship here on their own but they doled out legal advice to a bunch of other vendors so that they won't ship here either I talked to them a couple of days ago. I didn't get into it, but I started the conversation with, "I'm a big fan of your stuff, but I'm in Washington so we need to get it through back-door channels now since you won't ship to us."
_________________SteveBenefactor Life Member, National Rifle AssociationLife Member, Second Amendment FoundationPatriot & Life Member, Gun Owners of AmericaLife Member, Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear ArmsLegal Action Supporter, Firearms Policy CoalitionMember, NAGR/NFGRPlease support the organizations that support all of us.Leave it cleaner than you found it.
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Fri Jan 24, 2020 8:55 am |
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Arisaka
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Location: Tacoma Joined: Sat May 4, 2013 Posts: 6194
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MadPick wrote: RocketScott wrote: Can you guys go by the Polymer80 booth (10326) and kick them square in the nuts?
They are the source of the misinformation about shipping 80% receivers to WA. I wouldn't care if they decided not to ship here on their own but they doled out legal advice to a bunch of other vendors so that they won't ship here either I talked to them a couple of days ago. I didn't get into it, but I started the conversation with, "I'm a big fan of your stuff, but I'm in Washington so we need to get it through back-door channels now since you won't ship to us." Please go back and kick them in the nuts, as RocketScott requested. Use logging boots and a running start.
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