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It has been brought to our attention that numerous forums, blogs and other online entities are being sued and even shut down for copyright infringement. The scary part is, they are focusing on groups like ours, who talk about (and occasionally slight) political issues, rights, constitutions... etc.

So, in order to further fortify our posting guidelines, please post copyright materials in the following manner:

If posting actual verbatim from an article, please only copy/paste the first few lines / paragraphs. Use the "quote" option above as well. Please be sure to also include the link to the referenced article as well:

Cheesy Example:
Hey, I found this sweet article about yadda yadda, here it is!

yadda yadda yadda.... blah blah blah...

read the rest of the article here:


If you are going to post pictures that somebody has taken credit for, please make sure you post who the photographer is. Example. Olydemon has posted up many photos that he has taken in the WGO Photo Thread. If you are going to re-post that on this site (or others), please mention the Artist info as you know it and the source of the photo. Example, "look at this sweet picture that Olydemon took on the WGO Photo Thread!

Embedding video on this site allows us to play it directly on the thread and not having to open up a new window. If the video has any copyright notices on it at all, please do not embed the video, but post up the link to the video instead.

This list will change and be updated as we continue to research our exposure and how best to protect the site and our membership. As always, the Admins and Mod Team have full discretion to edit or remove any threads that it finds questionable. We will keep you all informed as this continues to develop.


Wed Aug 03, 2011 1:42 pm
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"The Armed Citizen" seems to be the first hit with this issue. If you visit the site you will notice the updates have ceased. The following info will fill you in as to why we want to keep this happening to WA Guns.

You can read the Armed Citizens page here:

Here's the post from the

On July 21st, The Armed Citizen received an indirect and informal notice of a lawsuit against this website and its owners, David Burnett and Clayton Cramer.
The suit, reportedly filed in US District Court on July 20th, alleges that The Armed Citizen and its owners “willfully copied” and infringed on original source content from the Las Vegas Review-Journal.

According to news reports, Righthaven LLC has filed lawsuits against no less than 80 other political websites and individual blogs for “infringement.”

Righthaven has offered no prior contact, cease-and-desist warnings or any attempt at good-faith resolution whatsoever.

Other defendants include, the Safe and Secure Internet Gambling Initiative, the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws and the Democrat National Committee of Nevada.

The “offending” entries reprinted on The Armed Citizen consist of six stories originating from the Las Vegas Review-Journal. There are several mitigating factors to consider:

* The Armed Citizen has posted nearly 4,700 such stories from a plethora of sources.

* Some of the stories were short enough to qualify under the Fair Use Rule, even disregarding that the goal of this website is academic, informational and in the public interest, not commercial.

* The stories – which were also properly cited and attributed – are still publicly available on the Las Vegas Review-Journal’s website.

* Some of these stories were posted on the website as far back as six years ago.

To the best of our knowledge, statutory damages can only be awarded if the plaintiff owns copyright on the articles in question. Righthaven sought and received a copyright on at least one of the articles in question on July 6…several months after the alleged offense. Clearly, this group is interested in money, not resolution.

The Armed Citizen has been excerpting articles from newspaper, TV station, and radio station websites for a number of years without a single complaint or infringement notice. If any copyright holders decided that The Armed Citizen had exceeded fair use, they only needed to send us an email. (Indeed, on the YouTube channel for The Armed Citizen, multiple news outlets have acknowledged copyright, yet chosen to let the content stay active for mutual benefit.)

Instead, in an apparent eagerness to intimidate small websites, Righthaven has chosen to pursue legal action.

Until this matter can be resolved, and a thorough review of Armed Citizen content can be made, all updates and archives at The Armed Citizen are hereby suspended.

At this time, the future of The Armed Citizen is uncertain, and possibly in jeopardy, thanks to Righthaven LLC and the Las Vegas Review-Journal.

We recognize that our readers will be shocked and disappointed. If you wish to help, please contact the Review-Journal and their advertisers to express your dismay at this unprecedented harshness. Your voice may be the only thing left that can save this website. (The Armed Citizen encourages such contact only on the condition that you say nothing that would reflect poorly on the website or its readership.)

Las Vegas Review-Journal
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Click here to read a copy of the lawsuit (as forwarded by a reporter…The Armed Citizen has received no official notice of pending litigation.)

Please consider donating using the link on your right to help offset the legal costs of this lawsuit.

To e-mail David and Clayton, write to

Sun Aug 07, 2011 11:37 am
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Bump! With a lot of news stories floating about, this is an important refresher.

Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:03 am
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Bumpage for a refresher course.


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Leave it cleaner than you found it.

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