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Supreme Court to Hear Major Gun Case on Concealed Firearms
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Pablo
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Location: Everson, WA Joined: Sun Jan 6, 2013 Posts: 28177
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/supreme-co ... malertNEWSQuote: BREAKING NEWS
WASHINGTON—The Supreme Court agreed Monday to review a New York law that limits carrying concealed firearms outside the home, potentially loosening gun laws nationwide in the first major Second Amendment case since 2010.
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MadPick
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Nice. Let’s get it done quickly while we still have nine justices!
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Caveman Jim
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MadPick wrote: Nice. Let’s get it done quickly while we still have nine justices! This^^^
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Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:19 am |
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Pablo
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I need to study the merits of the actual case. Will try to fit that in!
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Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:22 am |
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Alpine
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Fuck Roberts, we don't need him. 5-4 is just as binding as 6-3.
_________________If you vote for Biden you are voting to be murdered when he sends Beto to come take your "semi automatic assault weapon" (any semi auto). If you have family or friends voting for Biden show them this and ask if they are willing to vote for your murder or maybe even their own if they are gun owners or live with any. https://nypost.com/2020/03/03/joe-biden ... n-control/Quote: “I want to make something clear, I’m going to guarantee you this is not the last you’ve seen of him (Beto),” Biden said Monday evening during a campaign rally in Dallas. “You’re (Beto) going to take care of the gun problem with me. You’re (Beto) going to be the one who leads this effort.” https://www.newsweek.com/beto-orourke-g ... ns-1465738Quote: [Beto O'Rourke Suggests Police Would 'Visit' Homes To Implement Proposed Assault Weapons Ban] "In that case, I think that there would be a visit by law enforcement to recover that firearm... ..."If someone does not turn in an AR-15 or an AK-47, one of these weapons of war...then that weapon will be taken from them"
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Mon Apr 26, 2021 2:44 pm |
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martin248
Location: Issaquah Joined: Sun May 31, 2020 Posts: 1033
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Alpine wrote: Fuck Roberts, we don't need him. 5-4 is just as binding as 6-3. Roberts sided with the majority in Heller, so it's not clear he would vote against this.
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Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:56 pm |
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DrNoWay
Location: Olympia Joined: Mon Feb 8, 2021 Posts: 228
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ZERO faith in the USSC
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Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:01 pm |
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Pvanderzee
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Location: Bow Joined: Tue Apr 2, 2013 Posts: 2688
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DrNoWay wrote: ZERO faith in the USSC Same. We'll see how this plays out.
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Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:04 pm |
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martin248
Location: Issaquah Joined: Sun May 31, 2020 Posts: 1033
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There's a good summary of the case here: https://www.firearmspolicy.org/nysrpa-v ... tside-home and their Amicus brief itself is a great read: https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/ ... 0Brief.pdf I am trying to figure out who is driving this, as in, where do I donate money so they can do the best damn job possible in court. FPC has a donate link (here: https://secure.anedot.com/firearmspolic ... ode=donate) but is that the best place? Is SAF involved? Anyone else? SAF's statement here doesn't say if they are filing an amicus brief or contributing: https://www.saf.org/saf-hails-high-cour ... ment-case/, they take credit for a foundational case this is built on, but seem not to be parties to the present action?
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Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:09 pm |
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martin248
Location: Issaquah Joined: Sun May 31, 2020 Posts: 1033
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Amicus briefs filed by FPC and Korte Tree Care(!). Good job Korte Tree Care! https://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/c ... v-corlett/Anyone needing their trees cared for in MI, they're your guys!
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Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:18 pm |
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martin248
Location: Issaquah Joined: Sun May 31, 2020 Posts: 1033
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These organizations collectively filed an amicus brief in support of the right to carry concealed: The following law enforcement groups and state and local firearms rights groups are amici curiae in this case: National Association of Chiefs of Police Western States Sheriffs’ Association California State Sheriffs’ Association International Law Enforcement Educators and Trainers Association Law Enforcement Legal Defense Fund Association of New Jersey Rifle & Pistol Clubs, Inc. Bridgeville Rifle & Pistol Club, Ltd. Connecticut Citizens Defense League CRPA Foundation Delaware State Sportsmen’s Association Gun Owners’ Action League Massachusetts Gun Owners of California Hawaii Rifle Association Maryland State Rifle & Pistol Association Vermont Federation of Sportsmen’s Clubs Vermont State Rifle & Pistol Association Virginia Shooting Sports Association They filed a general Amicus brief outlining the history of the right to bear arms: https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/ ... 0FINAL.pdf
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Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:28 pm |
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martin248
Location: Issaquah Joined: Sun May 31, 2020 Posts: 1033
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The NRA's statement: https://www.nraila.org/articles/2021042 ... carry-caseCalls the case "NRA backed" and NYSRPA is NY's NRA affiliate. But still not clear where to donate other than FPC, which seems like a good start. NYSRPA's website is horrifically out of date with their most recent press release being from 2015, so I couldn't tell if they have a legal fund backing this effort.
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Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:42 pm |
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martin248
Location: Issaquah Joined: Sun May 31, 2020 Posts: 1033
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DrNoWay wrote: ZERO faith in the USSC Maybe. Maybe not. But of all the things that could happen in 2021 that will impact your rights as a firearm owner this is it. If we win, WA legislature can't do diddly squat about the most fundamental firearm rights that you have. If we lose, expect WA and other anti-gun states to react by eliminating the "shall issue" clause and taking away very many of your rights. Every year they pass another 2-3 laws chipping away at your rights, adding restrictions--chip chip chip. This case is a legit chance to stop the worst of that. Sure, you can "resist" through non compliance - but it'll be so much better for you if USSC has your back. We need to win this.
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Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:44 pm |
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martin248
Location: Issaquah Joined: Sun May 31, 2020 Posts: 1033
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Alpine
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DrNoWay wrote: ZERO faith in the USSC I had serious qualms until we overcame Roberts grip, he probably styled himself as the new Kennedy or God help us Souter. While Roberts sided with the majority in Heller and MacDonald, for years, even after Kennedy was gone, Roberts did not vote to grant cert to any gun cases. Clearly him "fearing" Kennedy on behalf of gun owners was a BS explanation because when Gorsuch and Kavanaugh got in, Roberts was still voting no for cert on many gun cases. Fuck Roberts to hell, hopefully with ACB there now we can get a good decision authored by Thomas, the best judge.
_________________If you vote for Biden you are voting to be murdered when he sends Beto to come take your "semi automatic assault weapon" (any semi auto). If you have family or friends voting for Biden show them this and ask if they are willing to vote for your murder or maybe even their own if they are gun owners or live with any. https://nypost.com/2020/03/03/joe-biden ... n-control/Quote: “I want to make something clear, I’m going to guarantee you this is not the last you’ve seen of him (Beto),” Biden said Monday evening during a campaign rally in Dallas. “You’re (Beto) going to take care of the gun problem with me. You’re (Beto) going to be the one who leads this effort.” https://www.newsweek.com/beto-orourke-g ... ns-1465738Quote: [Beto O'Rourke Suggests Police Would 'Visit' Homes To Implement Proposed Assault Weapons Ban] "In that case, I think that there would be a visit by law enforcement to recover that firearm... ..."If someone does not turn in an AR-15 or an AK-47, one of these weapons of war...then that weapon will be taken from them"
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