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beckdw
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Location: Tri -Cities Joined: Thu May 23, 2013 Posts: 2798
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usrifle wrote: Sinus211 wrote: Are they also going to pay for the legally required form 1 engraving on these braced sbr’s?
Nothing about this sounds free or even close to fair. Even with the free stamp they’re placing an undue hardship on millions of people.
#defundtheATF The Government giving Gun owner's something for free? Yeah, or it's a way to get us to Federally register millions of Semi Auto Sporting Rifles.... This, all it is is a registration scheme, just like 594 and 1639.
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usrifle
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Location: RENTON Joined: Fri Mar 25, 2011 Posts: 20754
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beckdw wrote: usrifle wrote: Sinus211 wrote: Are they also going to pay for the legally required form 1 engraving on these braced sbr’s?
Nothing about this sounds free or even close to fair. Even with the free stamp they’re placing an undue hardship on millions of people.
#defundtheATF The Government giving Gun owner's something for free? Yeah, or it's a way to get us to Federally register millions of Semi Auto Sporting Rifles.... This, all it is is a registration scheme, just like 594 and 1639. I should have said "Pistol" not Rifle, but you see the plan. Seizure at that point is easy, we made it easy for them. "Here's a Free Tax Stamp, just tell us what you have so we can register it"
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Daveygravey89
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Location: Eatonville Joined: Tue Feb 25, 2014 Posts: 1266
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So if this follows through, people like me who have never done a SBR say we get these free stamps , and pay out of pocket for the engraving( which I don’t even have a fucking trust ) then at that point would we be able to leave the braces on the pistols when they are sbrs or do we have to put the real deal stock on ?
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Massivedesign
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Location: Olympia, WA Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 Posts: 38293
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usrifle wrote: beckdw wrote: This, all it is is a registration scheme, just like 594 and 1639. I should have said "Pistol" not Rifle, but you see the plan. Seizure at that point is easy, we made it easy for them. "Here's a Free Tax Stamp, just tell us what you have so we can register it"
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OhShoot!
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Location: Bellingham Canada Joined: Thu Jan 3, 2013 Posts: 4998
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usrifle wrote: beckdw wrote: usrifle wrote: Sinus211 wrote: Are they also going to pay for the legally required form 1 engraving on these braced sbr’s?
Nothing about this sounds free or even close to fair. Even with the free stamp they’re placing an undue hardship on millions of people.
#defundtheATF The Government giving Gun owner's something for free? Yeah, or it's a way to get us to Federally register millions of Semi Auto Sporting Rifles.... This, all it is is a registration scheme, just like 594 and 1639. I should have said "Pistol" not Rifle, but you see the plan. Seizure at that point is easy, we made it easy for them. "Here's a Free Tax Stamp, just tell us what you have so we can register it" Yep, nothing in life is free. This deal comes with a cost.
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jukk0u
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Location: Lynnwood and at large Joined: Wed May 1, 2013 Posts: 21152
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What's a "brace"?
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waglocker
Location: Ohio Joined: Fri Nov 9, 2012 Posts: 3924
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OH YEAH, FUCK YEAH, MORE GOVERNMENT PLEASE.
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MadPick
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Location: Renton, WA Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 Posts: 51919
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The ATF is such a giant piece of shit . . . this is so aggravating . . . . The SBR and SBS portions of the NFA just need to go away.
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Duke EB
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Location: maple valley Joined: Mon May 6, 2013 Posts: 2575
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A thorsden cheek rest shouldn't fall under this should it? I've got two setup with that.
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DGM33
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Location: Renton/Kent Joined: Wed Feb 15, 2012 Posts: 3545
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Duke EB wrote: A thorsden cheek rest shouldn't fall under this should it? I've got two setup with that. Yeah, I'm curious what "devices" this will affect. Thorsden cheek rest, Shockwave Blade? All braces, or just those that haven't already been approved? There are a lot of "loophole" devices on the market.
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Daveygravey89
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Location: Eatonville Joined: Tue Feb 25, 2014 Posts: 1266
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You guys think this will really happen ?
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jorgeu
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Arisaka
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Location: Tacoma Joined: Sat May 4, 2013 Posts: 6196
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Daveygravey89 wrote: So if this follows through, people like me who have never done a SBR say we get these free stamps , and pay out of pocket for the engraving( which I don’t even have a fucking trust ) then at that point would we be able to leave the braces on the pistols when they are sbrs or do we have to put the real deal stock on ? If you have an SBR stamp, why wouldn’t you pull off that shitty brace and put on a real stock?
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AR15L
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Location: Nampa, Idaho Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 19387
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jukk0u wrote: What's a "brace"?
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AR15L
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Location: Nampa, Idaho Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 19387
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So, who's here dumb enough to "register" their brace?
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