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scrid2000
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Location: Pierce County Joined: Wed Nov 14, 2018 Posts: 1989
Real Name: Shane
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I expect it to come back after the new Congress is seated, likely without the offer of free stamps.
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Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:42 pm |
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mustangfreek
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Location: Lk stevens area Joined: Sun Aug 19, 2012 Posts: 1919
Real Name: Jason
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usrifle wrote: Pablo wrote: Pvanderzee wrote: Well, this is interesting... regrouping for when Big Daddy B takes the thrown. This Agreed. X3
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Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:15 am |
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MadPick
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Location: Renton, WA Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 Posts: 52032
Real Name: Steve
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Here's the letter that was sent by some of the House members:
_________________SteveBenefactor Life Member, National Rifle AssociationLife Member, Second Amendment FoundationPatriot & Life Member, Gun Owners of AmericaLife Member, Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear ArmsLegal Action Supporter, Firearms Policy CoalitionMember, NAGR/NFGRPlease support the organizations that support all of us.Leave it cleaner than you found it.
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Thu Dec 24, 2020 9:17 am |
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Pablo
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Location: Everson, WA Joined: Sun Jan 6, 2013 Posts: 28178
Real Name: Ace Winky
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VERY well written!
_________________ Why does the Penguin in Batman sound like a duck?
Because the eagle sounds like a hawk.
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Thu Dec 24, 2020 9:35 am |
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scrid2000
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Location: Pierce County Joined: Wed Nov 14, 2018 Posts: 1989
Real Name: Shane
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Pablo wrote: VERY well written! MadPick wrote: Here's the letter that was sent by some of the House members: Perhaps, but I'm not excited by the implication that the only valid use of a brace is to assist someone with a disability.
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Thu Dec 24, 2020 12:09 pm |
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Pablo
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Location: Everson, WA Joined: Sun Jan 6, 2013 Posts: 28178
Real Name: Ace Winky
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scrid2000 wrote: Perhaps, but I'm not excited by the implication that the only valid use of a brace is to assist someone with a disability. Well frankly I do agree, we should not even be looking at this attack on our freedoms. It's a singular angle - but reread - they quote the ATF garbage and say more.
_________________ Why does the Penguin in Batman sound like a duck?
Because the eagle sounds like a hawk.
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Thu Dec 24, 2020 12:25 pm |
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hartcreek
Location: Union Gap Joined: Sun Mar 27, 2016 Posts: 1722
Real Name: Randall Knapp
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scrid2000......if you were disabled like myself and others here you would be more read up on the ADA and the adaptive equipment regulations. Law enforcement can not ask what a persons disabilitry is the ATF sure as hell can not. This same adaptive equipment clause allows me to run vehicles in areas that are closed to vehicles yet open to foot, bicycle or riding and pack stock. I just can not go inro wilderness. I could even slap a brace on my ar pistol if I wanted. I was banging heads with the US Forest Service for years till the Department of Justice spelled this clause out in specific terms.
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Thu Dec 24, 2020 12:38 pm |
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scrid2000
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Location: Pierce County Joined: Wed Nov 14, 2018 Posts: 1989
Real Name: Shane
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hartcreek wrote: scrid2000......if you were disabled like myself and others here you would be more read up on the ADA and the adaptive equipment regulations. Law enforcement can not ask what a persons disabilitry is the ATF sure as hell can not. This same adaptive equipment clause allows me to run vehicles in areas that are closed to vehicles yet open to foot, bicycle or riding and pack stock. I just can not go inro wilderness. I could even slap a brace on my ar pistol if I wanted. I was banging heads with the US Forest Service for years till the Department of Justice spelled this clause out in specific terms. I understand that there are limitations on intrusion into exceptions for those who are disabled, and I'm not suggesting that accommodation shouldn't be those who are disabled; there absolutely should be. What I'm not excited about is the suggestion that assisting those with a disability should be the primary consideration in whether or not a brace is legal, because that's only one step away from a brace being considered a stock for someone who isn't disabled.
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Thu Dec 24, 2020 1:30 pm |
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jukk0u
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Location: Lynnwood and at large Joined: Wed May 1, 2013 Posts: 21266
Real Name: Vick Lagina
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_________________ “Finding ‘common ground’ with the thinking of evil men is a fool’s errand” ~ Herschel Smith
"The said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms." ~ Samuel Adams
“A return to First Principles in a Republic is sometimes caused by simple virtues of a single man. His good example has such an influence that the good men strive to imitate him, and the wicked are ashamed to lead a life so contrary to his example. Before all else, be armed!” ~ Niccolo Machiavelli
Láodòng zhèng zhūwèi zìyóu
FJB
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Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:08 am |
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MadPick
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Location: Renton, WA Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 Posts: 52032
Real Name: Steve
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WTF. Shit, even if you try to be legal, it's really not even possible anymore.
_________________SteveBenefactor Life Member, National Rifle AssociationLife Member, Second Amendment FoundationPatriot & Life Member, Gun Owners of AmericaLife Member, Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear ArmsLegal Action Supporter, Firearms Policy CoalitionMember, NAGR/NFGRPlease support the organizations that support all of us.Leave it cleaner than you found it.
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Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:52 am |
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Nitro_Guns
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Location: Lynnwood Joined: Mon Mar 14, 2011 Posts: 2499
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_________________ aka Big_Daddy
Nitro Products FFL Dealer SOT Dealer
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Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:40 pm |
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jukk0u
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Location: Lynnwood and at large Joined: Wed May 1, 2013 Posts: 21266
Real Name: Vick Lagina
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Ammoland reports on a "leaked Congressional Research Services" study: https://www.ammoland.com/2021/02/leaked ... d-20588801It really illustrates how ATF policy has flip-flopped over the years. They suggest that this study indicates that CONGRESS might take up the issue again soon.
_________________ “Finding ‘common ground’ with the thinking of evil men is a fool’s errand” ~ Herschel Smith
"The said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms." ~ Samuel Adams
“A return to First Principles in a Republic is sometimes caused by simple virtues of a single man. His good example has such an influence that the good men strive to imitate him, and the wicked are ashamed to lead a life so contrary to his example. Before all else, be armed!” ~ Niccolo Machiavelli
Láodòng zhèng zhūwèi zìyóu
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Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:14 pm |
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jukk0u
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Location: Lynnwood and at large Joined: Wed May 1, 2013 Posts: 21266
Real Name: Vick Lagina
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Apparently the BATFE got their collective pee-pees slapped by the DOJ and has withdrawn the Dec. 2020 amended "guidance" on arm braces "pending further review by the DOJ". https://www.ammoland.com/2021/03/atf-su ... 6-20588801
_________________ “Finding ‘common ground’ with the thinking of evil men is a fool’s errand” ~ Herschel Smith
"The said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms." ~ Samuel Adams
“A return to First Principles in a Republic is sometimes caused by simple virtues of a single man. His good example has such an influence that the good men strive to imitate him, and the wicked are ashamed to lead a life so contrary to his example. Before all else, be armed!” ~ Niccolo Machiavelli
Láodòng zhèng zhūwèi zìyóu
FJB
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Fri Mar 19, 2021 7:44 am |
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jukk0u
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Location: Lynnwood and at large Joined: Wed May 1, 2013 Posts: 21266
Real Name: Vick Lagina
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With only 211,000 stabilizer comments, the DOJ needs 120 to process. https://www.ammoland.com/2021/09/doj-ne ... -comments/
_________________ “Finding ‘common ground’ with the thinking of evil men is a fool’s errand” ~ Herschel Smith
"The said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms." ~ Samuel Adams
“A return to First Principles in a Republic is sometimes caused by simple virtues of a single man. His good example has such an influence that the good men strive to imitate him, and the wicked are ashamed to lead a life so contrary to his example. Before all else, be armed!” ~ Niccolo Machiavelli
Láodòng zhèng zhūwèi zìyóu
FJB
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