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I was ready another gun forum and there was a thread talking about the possibility of an MSR ban in WA and OR. Most responders presumed that we would be given a grandfather clause for existing weapons. Maybe you guys already do this... But should I buy a couple or more stripper lowers just in case this all happens? I don't really want to spend the money on a complete gun, but if I had some grandfathered lowers I could buy uppers or whatever at my leisure.


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At current prices you won't lose much if any so buy some.


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I was ready another gun forum and there was a thread talking about the possibility of an MSR ban in WA and OR. Most responders presumed that we would be given a grandfather clause for existing weapons. Maybe you guys already do this... But should I buy a couple or more stripper lowers just in case this all happens? I don't really want to spend the money on a complete gun, but if I had some grandfathered lowers I could buy uppers or whatever at my leisure.


Probably should start by reading through here: viewforum.php?f=137

I think it would be best if we all keep current on the details and actually FIGHT the terrible legislation. Up until Wed, the worst was being held in check, now it looks like the best scenario is "just" an age increase on semi-auto rifle purchase. But man, I don't want to be an asshole here - but do you vote? Do you know who your legislators are? Are you prepared to contact them frequently?

Buying a few lowers is probably smart, either way.

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blue92 wrote:
At current prices you won't lose much if any so buy some.

Actually that would depend on what lowers you decide to purchase. Some are pretty expensive.


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keep in mind WA would become one of those states in which the sellers can't or won't ship to......

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What brands are good for lowers? I dont need a top dollar one but I wouldn't want a budget basement one either. I am one of those people that is okay with paying more for quality. But like I said, it doesn't have to be "da bestest lower ever omgz".

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Aero lowers are 4 for $200 at Quantico:

http://www.quanticotactical.com/asp/itemDetail.asp?dispItemNum=5868&type=M&CMN=Aero%20Precision&CMNum=306&CMSNum=1291&CMSN=Stripped%20Lowers%3E

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Aero’s or Anderson’s. Not a damn thing wrong with either.

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blue92 wrote:
At current prices you won't lose much if any so buy some.

Actually that would depend on what lowers you decide to purchase. Some are pretty expensive.


Re-read. At current prices you won't lose much. A $350 billet lower now will be at least that much later, too.


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To anyone that's a gun owner or cares about civil liberties, you should be writing your legislature to turn this stuff off, and voting pro-gun in every election.

As for stocking up, yes. Anything you think you might want, you'd be wise to get it now. We are living in a cycle where 1 bad shooting or 1 bad election cycle can ban stuff overnight or put heavy restrictions on ownership.

I'm personally planning my exit strategy from Washington because I simply refuse to live under this nightmare. The cloud of anxiety this causes me and has caused me for my entire time here is just too much to continue with. I hate it. I've lived in free states before and there isn't always this urgency that you must "stock up."

I've been a gun owner for ~20 years. My first experiences were under the Clinton AWB. The variety and quality of handguns and rifles then is nowhere near what we have today. Prices then were much higher too. Sigs and Glocks and ARs are cheaper today than they were during the AWB. Mags too. Night and day. If you could even find quality high capacity mags prepare to pay through the nose.
I barely owned any 11+ round mags b/c they were scarce and expensive.

We had a brief good period from 2004-2009 when Obama took over. I came home from my deployment to find stripped no-name lowers were $150, and I bought the last 3 in the shop so I would have them. Gun shows - a joke. Basic AR15s were 3-6x what they are now. I remember seeing one guy with an AR for sale for like a grand, and there were like 8 people arguing over who would get to buy it. Mags were $50 or $100 for common AR and AK mags. Ammo became extinct, practically. You either couldn't get it, or it was 2-5x expensive.

There was serious talk of a permanent AWB. It was terrible.

That was on a nationwide scale. I doubt we'll see that again nationwide, at least for the next few years and probably never. But it's going on in smaller scales state-wide. Washington is heading in that direction, and the legislature here probably has the power to do it. IMO it's just a matter of 1-3 years for serious bad gun laws to get pushed through. Probably going to see California style weapon and magazine restrictions which start mild and get bad after a few years. Companies will stop shipping here too. Could be some other anti-gun laws too.

UNLESS citizens act. VOTE. WRITE.

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To anyone that's a gun owner or cares about civil liberties, you should be writing your legislature to turn this stuff off, and voting pro-gun in every election.

As for stocking up, yes. Anything you think you might want, you'd be wise to get it now. We are living in a cycle where 1 bad shooting or 1 bad election cycle can ban stuff overnight or put heavy restrictions on ownership.

I'm personally planning my exit strategy from Washington because I simply refuse to live under this nightmare. The cloud of anxiety this causes me and has caused me for my entire time here is just too much to continue with. I hate it. I've lived in free states before and there isn't always this urgency that you must "stock up."

I've been a gun owner for ~20 years. My first experiences were under the Clinton AWB. The variety and quality of handguns and rifles then is nowhere near what we have today. Prices then were much higher too. Sigs and Glocks and ARs are cheaper today than they were during the AWB. Mags too. Night and day. If you could even find quality high capacity mags prepare to pay through the nose.
I barely owned any 11+ round mags b/c they were scarce and expensive.

We had a brief good period from 2004-2009 when Obama took over. I came home from my deployment to find stripped no-name lowers were $150, and I bought the last 3 in the shop so I would have them. Gun shows - a joke. Basic AR15s were 3-6x what they are now. I remember seeing one guy with an AR for sale for like a grand, and there were like 8 people arguing over who would get to buy it. Mags were $50 or $100 for common AR and AK mags. Ammo became extinct, practically. You either couldn't get it, or it was 2-5x expensive.

There was serious talk of a permanent AWB. It was terrible.

That was on a nationwide scale. I doubt we'll see that again nationwide, at least for the next few years and probably never. But it's going on in smaller scales state-wide. Washington is heading in that direction, and the legislature here probably has the power to do it. IMO it's just a matter of 1-3 years for serious bad gun laws to get pushed through. Probably going to see California style weapon and magazine restrictions which start mild and get bad after a few years. Companies will stop shipping here too. Could be some other anti-gun laws too.

UNLESS citizens act. VOTE. WRITE.



I get why you want to leave, but every time someone pro gun leaves for a “free state”, it’s one less citizen to act, vote, write, in that state. Eventually people are going to keep moving, states will become more anti gun, then there won’t be enough “free states” left to sway any national opinion.

FYI:
-California has 55 electoral votes.
-New York 29.

-Montana 3.
-Idaho 4.


See where I’m going with this?


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To anyone that's a gun owner or cares about civil liberties, you should be writing your legislature to turn this stuff off, and voting pro-gun in every election.

As for stocking up, yes. Anything you think you might want, you'd be wise to get it now. We are living in a cycle where 1 bad shooting or 1 bad election cycle can ban stuff overnight or put heavy restrictions on ownership.

I'm personally planning my exit strategy from Washington because I simply refuse to live under this nightmare. The cloud of anxiety this causes me and has caused me for my entire time here is just too much to continue with. I hate it. I've lived in free states before and there isn't always this urgency that you must "stock up."

I've been a gun owner for ~20 years. My first experiences were under the Clinton AWB. The variety and quality of handguns and rifles then is nowhere near what we have today. Prices then were much higher too. Sigs and Glocks and ARs are cheaper today than they were during the AWB. Mags too. Night and day. If you could even find quality high capacity mags prepare to pay through the nose.
I barely owned any 11+ round mags b/c they were scarce and expensive.

We had a brief good period from 2004-2009 when Obama took over. I came home from my deployment to find stripped no-name lowers were $150, and I bought the last 3 in the shop so I would have them. Gun shows - a joke. Basic AR15s were 3-6x what they are now. I remember seeing one guy with an AR for sale for like a grand, and there were like 8 people arguing over who would get to buy it. Mags were $50 or $100 for common AR and AK mags. Ammo became extinct, practically. You either couldn't get it, or it was 2-5x expensive.

There was serious talk of a permanent AWB. It was terrible.

That was on a nationwide scale. I doubt we'll see that again nationwide, at least for the next few years and probably never. But it's going on in smaller scales state-wide. Washington is heading in that direction, and the legislature here probably has the power to do it. IMO it's just a matter of 1-3 years for serious bad gun laws to get pushed through. Probably going to see California style weapon and magazine restrictions which start mild and get bad after a few years. Companies will stop shipping here too. Could be some other anti-gun laws too.

UNLESS citizens act. VOTE. WRITE.



I get why you want to leave, but every time someone pro gun leaves for a “free state”, it’s one less citizen to act, vote, write, in that state. Eventually people are going to keep moving, states will become more anti gun, then there won’t be enough “free states” left to sway any national opinion.

FYI:
-California has 55 electoral votes.
-New York 29.

-Montana 3.
-Idaho 4.


See where I’m going with this?[/ quote]

You do not see the whole picture, people move to a beautiful state such as Wa (Oregun too) from a very oppressive state such as California. These Democrat progressive liberal voting cretins then throw the balance from tolerable but leave us alone citizens to an invasion of the rights snatching dogooders.
We have been fighting this vermin for years but every year it gets worse and there is no light at the end of the tunnel save a revolt.
You younger people should have been paying attention to what us older freedom fighters have been doing all these years and adapt new strategies for the times.
Good luck because we are handing you guys the torch.
I want to live the last few years I have left enjoying my freedom with my grand kids.

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We've got a rather large order coming in of both AR15 and 308AR receivers. I'll have pricing soon. I think they'll be quite competitively priced.

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We've got a rather large order coming in of both AR15 and 308AR receivers. I'll have pricing soon. I think they'll be quite competitively priced.

80% receivers? Eagerly awaiting more info!


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