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Wyoming Man, Machine Guns, and the Federal Gov't
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jukk0u
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Location: Lynnwood and at large Joined: Wed May 1, 2013 Posts: 21297
Real Name: Vick Lagina
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Wyoming man brings compelling case to Federal court to force Feds to allow acknowledge right of citizens to private ownership of commonly used machine guns. https://cowboystatedaily.com/2023/03/16 ... dium=email"DeWilde’s argument was nearly the opposite of the federal government’s, as he held that recent gun cases from 2008 and 2022 together indicate that the M16 is in “common use” by the U.S. military and therefore should be made legal for citizens. He wrote that he wants an M16 for lawful purposes, including “defense of hearth and home and militia functions.”
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Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:38 pm |
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MadPick
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Real Name: Steve
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Nice. Best of luck to him.
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Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:18 am |
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mikeyb
Location: Utah Joined: Tue Mar 15, 2016 Posts: 185
Real Name: Michael
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So even the Federal Gov't acknowledges what I believe.
“explaining that ‘the conception of the militia at the time of the Second Amendment’s ratification was the body of all citizens capable of military service, who would bring the sorts of lawful weapons that they possessed at home to militia duty.’”
1. Citizens have the right to be armed before militia participation, which makes a militia - or a "well-regulated militia" - irrelevant to the right. The anti's argument "we don't have a militia, so you don't get a gun" is wrong logic.
2. The lawsuit will try to get civilian arms = military arms. There should be no distinction between the two.
3. The obvious contention: '...shall not be infringed.'
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Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:17 am |
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Liddlebit81
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Location: Napavine Joined: Sat Feb 11, 2017 Posts: 756
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Nice! Use the anti’s arguments against them. We need to establish more prior cases to build momentum after Bruen.
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Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:13 am |
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Caveman Jim
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It needs to be stated that with current events of the last 30 years, the militias should be stronger by now. Tyranny needs abolished post haste!!!
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Sat Mar 18, 2023 3:20 pm |
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dreadi
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Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:02 pm |
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Caveman Jim
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_________________"You are either with us...as Americans. Or, You are against us. There is no IN BETWEEN." ??? "We cannot negotiate with those who say, 'What's mine is mine, and what's yours is negotiable.'" JFK "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety” -Ben Franklin MadPick wrote: I don't think you beat your children enough.
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Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:59 pm |
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beckdw
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^^^^What they said^^^^^
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Sat Mar 18, 2023 7:40 pm |
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DM47
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Location: no longer in a van down by the river (... at least anywhere near South King County) Joined: Mon Mar 6, 2017 Posts: 1269
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dreadi wrote: Everyone should have a machine gun. Equality for all.
I believe that is the impetus for the Second Amendment.
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Sun Mar 19, 2023 7:01 am |
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