Welcome to another 'Holy shit you're really overthinking this Techno, just fucking buy something' thread...

I have a bag that can hold my AR and half a dozen mags. It's actually fairly small.... Problem is, I'm constantly having issues with rust/mold, as it lives in my trunk.

Not too dissimilar to this.. albeit in OD.



Despite it being all tacti-cool, it's OD and actually pretty unassuming when it's not doctored for pictures and stuffed full of whatever the hell they put in there to make it look bigger/fuller than it actually is.... It mostly looks like a small backpack.

There are a couple things to note:

1. I like that my bag opens from the top, as I can reach in, grab it and pull it out, with mag already loaded, and if need be, could squeeze off a round with it in the bag. Yes, it'd be permanently damaged due to the side folding mechanism getting jacked up, but it's theoretically possible.

2. I have a pelican case. The side opening aspect, I'm not a fan of.

3. I looked at messenger bags.... Those are lower profile, but doesn't solve the moisture issue.

4. I've used Rigid tool boxes as discreet gun cases that have worked great, but in that case it was important to blend in to my environment, and it did so. I can't really have a rigid tool case sitting on my front seat, because it doesn't 'fit'...


Yes, I've used desiccant, and I had to constantly swap them out, as anything more than like a week and I'd be seeing moisture again.

So, it would seem a sealed or semi-sealed case would work, but it would also seem they'd stick out like a sore thumb... and also I couldn't really casually carry it if need be.

A soft bag I can carry anywhere without raising suspicions, but the moisture issue rears its ugly head.


I was looking at a hardshell case like this, and though it says 'waterproof', something tells me that's just Chinese marketing.



Thoughts?

The dimensions I'm working with are 14x12x4.

Sealed or not, if it’s living in a trunk it’s subject to huge temperature variances that will cause condensation inside the bag. Unless you’re willing to vacuum pack I can’t see how changing the bag will help reduce the moisture inside.

Maybe I’m wrong? Maybe your bag needs a way to control moisture inside like bulk dessicant?

Going off in a different tangent, why not seal the gun in plastic with a couple desicants? Think of a ziplock with a couple desicants thrown in for good measure... For longer storage double seal the edges with scotch tape.

Or just dont give a crap about moisture and get a full stainless firearm.

That's kinda why I was leaning to a hard case or something a little more resistant to moisture.

When I was daily driving my maintenance truck, I had a similar bag that the gun was in, and it was in a locked compartment for about a month... The bag was so covered in mold I just threw it out.... Lube/protectant only goes so far, and I'm finding the small stuff like the screw for the safety selector (45*, ambi) had some surface rust on it.


I don't want a hard case though, that's why I was thinking maybe there's a hybrid case I don't know about?

Defeats the purpose of having it handy/right there.


Theoretically, I'm sure they make ziploc bags big enough, but... lol

I'm sure there is a bag sealer and the perfect roll of bag material that would fit the bill if it isnt currently a thing, and honestly if it that a thing, then there is a market for it.

I bet you can stake a string from inside the bag to make it a simple rip and pew kinda thing(probably a patent there) but i'm sure there is something better this is off the top of my head stuff

It seems like you need a container or box to store your Backpack in to keep dry from the elements.
What about a box you could keep in the truck and or take it out in the house when you wanted too?

+1

Replacing the weather stripping around the trunk lid and washing the trunk liner to get rid of any mold spore would help

Paint on steel does the trick for me, when it comes to eliminating rust from getting wet, and condensation from coming in from the cold.

How are you having these issues if you're bringing the gun/bag in every day/night? You're not actually leaving it in a vehicle for days on end, are you?

You don't need a special bag, you need regular maintenance. I think you already know this, but once the "lazy" bug bites, it's difficult to shake off. Wipe your weapons down with an oiled cloth every day if necessary, to leave a protective film of oil over the steel surfaces. Then put it back in whatever conveyance/storage you like.

I'm not picking on you brother, but this isn't the first recent post you've made that indicates your neglectful trend towards your protective gear. If you're concerned enough to carry these tools around with you, make the decision to discipline yourself on regular maintenance.

I've been on the lookout for a couple bags myself; one for the gym - I have a little sling bag from one of those "mystery box" deals. It's crap. But it holds water bottles, towel, phone, keys, etc.

I also need a better daily bag. I have a 5.11 messenger bag that is too tactical. I also realized a backpack is more useful than the messenger bag.

But back to the matter at hand - How about a waterproof backpack? In WA weather, it'd be a no-brainer, since we're raised to not use umbrellas. ;)

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B098S9D1MJ/re ... HJ1ZQ&th=1

I was going to recommend trying a waterproof bag, like this guy here:




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I might be missing something here. Are you carrying this as well, or it's just for storage in your trunk? I will try some Google fu, but have seen ads for a completely weatherproof gun case company. Maybe they have something in line with what you want.

My ghb goes in the house with me every night. At first carrying it in and out is a PIA, but like anything routine it ultimately just becomes background noise.

Even home safes have moisture issuez. Alotta folks use goldenrods. Rigging to an inverter and your car battery might be too much of a drain. Is there ac power near your parking?

A silicon impregnated sock might help. (jefferies socks dot com are US made)
I wonder if silicon spray on the inside of the bag would just be a nasty mess, or if it would degrade the nylon?

Maybe go old school and heavily wax a canvass bag., like those stiff old cowboy duster coats. (get wax at filsons)

I really think bringing it in at night is your best bet.

My ghb:



First-spear makes this bag and a lot of others.



since it's a backpack it leaves hands free.

It's maintained. It's cleaned. As I pointed out, it's the small stuff like the retention screw for the safety selector lever that has some surface rust on it. I can't turn my AR into a slip n slide.