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LowLead
Location: Tumwater Joined: Tue Sep 8, 2020 Posts: 167
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Quote: WASHINGTON – The U.S. Army announced the award of a 10-year firm-fixed-price follow-on production contract to Sig Sauer, Inc for the manufacture and delivery of two Next Generation Squad Weapon variations (the XM5 Rifle and the XM250 Automatic Rifle) and the 6.8 Common Cartridge Family of Ammunition. This award was made following a rigorous 27-month prototyping and evaluation effort that included numerous technical tests and Soldier touch points of three competing prototype systems. The value of the initial delivery order on the contract is $20.4 million for weapons and ammunition that will undergo testing. The contract includes accessories, spares and contractor support. It also provides the other Department of Defense services and, potentially, Foreign Military Sales countries the opportunity to purchase the NGSW weapons. The XM5 Rifle will replace the M4/M4A1 carbine within the close combat force, and the XM250 Automatic Rifle is the planned replacement for the M249 Squad Automatic Weapon Both weapons provide significant capability improvements in accuracy, range and overall lethality. They are lightweight, fire more lethal ammunition, mitigate recoil, provide improved barrel performance, and include integrated muzzle sound and flash reduction. Both weapons fire common 6.8 millimeter ammunition utilizing government provided projectiles and vendor-designed cartridges. The new ammunition includes multiple types of tactical and training rounds that increase accuracy and are more lethal against emerging threats than both the 5.56mm and 7.62mm ammunition. The XM5 and XM250 will be paired with the XM157 Fire Control, a ruggedized advanced fire control system that increases accuracy and lethality for the close combat force. The XM157 integrates a number of advanced technologies, including a variable magnification optic (1X8), backup etched reticle, laser rangefinder, ballistic calculator, atmospheric sensor suite, compass, Intra-Soldier Wireless, visible and infrared aiming lasers, and a digital display overlay. It is produced by Sheltered Wings Inc. d/b/a Vortex Optics, Barneveld, Wisconsin. For more information, please contact the PEO Soldier Public Affairs Office at 862-324-5933 or peter.j.rowland2.ctr@army.mil. https://www.army.mil/article/255827/arm ... n_contract
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Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:55 pm |
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Col_Temp
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Location: Lake Stevens Joined: Fri Jan 3, 2014 Posts: 6220
Real Name: Paris
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Yep saw their email annoucement. Does that mean all that surplus 556 is gong to get cheaper....
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Wed Apr 20, 2022 3:57 pm |
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hkhnm
Location: King County Joined: Thu Feb 3, 2022 Posts: 697
Real Name: Russ
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As a resident of a gun grabber State with an impending mag ban:
Any chance of snagging some magazines for this before July?
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Wed Apr 20, 2022 4:14 pm |
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Tonydec
Location: Tacoma Joined: Wed Jun 4, 2014 Posts: 484
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I just hope citizen Sig CS doesn't go the way many others with .gov contracts went.
I have had really good CS from Sig except for one time, mainly because my rep got transferred to a different division and I got lost in the shuffle.
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Wed Apr 20, 2022 4:26 pm |
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LowLead
Location: Tumwater Joined: Tue Sep 8, 2020 Posts: 167
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hkhnm wrote: As a resident of a gun grabber State with an impending mag ban:
Any chance of snagging some magazines for this before July? I believe it takes AR10 magazines, similar to how 300 AAC takes 5.56 magazines.
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Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:44 pm |
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hkhnm
Location: King County Joined: Thu Feb 3, 2022 Posts: 697
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Yeah the photo kind of looks like Lancers? I guess I should stock up. I sold my AR308 and all my mags a year ago. Pisses me off that I have to rebuy mags.
Any idea what variant of AR10 mag?
If this ends up being the rifle if the future and even if I don't buy one for ten years it would be good to have some mags for it.
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Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:12 am |
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Guns4Liberty
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Location: Lynnwood/Bothell Joined: Thu Jul 31, 2014 Posts: 8565
Real Name: Curtis
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hkhnm wrote: Yeah the photo kind of looks like Lancers? I guess I should stock up. I sold my AR308 and all my mags a year ago. Pisses me off that I have to rebuy mags.
Any idea what variant of AR10 mag?
If this ends up being the rifle if the future and even if I don't buy one for ten years it would be good to have some mags for it. It's not like you can't acquire the mags later...there are about 40 other states in the Union where freedom is still (somewhat) valued.
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Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:55 am |
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hkhnm
Location: King County Joined: Thu Feb 3, 2022 Posts: 697
Real Name: Russ
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Guns4Liberty wrote: hkhnm wrote: Yeah the photo kind of looks like Lancers? I guess I should stock up. I sold my AR308 and all my mags a year ago. Pisses me off that I have to rebuy mags.
Any idea what variant of AR10 mag?
If this ends up being the rifle if the future and even if I don't buy one for ten years it would be good to have some mags for it. It's not like you can't acquire the mags later...there are about 40 other states in the Union where freedom is still (somewhat) valued. Yeah, if it's an existing magazine type I probably already have some. Prove I don't! If wasn't for sale before the ban then it's trickier.
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Thu Apr 21, 2022 2:32 pm |
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L_O_G
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Location: South Seattle Joined: Thu Sep 22, 2011 Posts: 13486
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So they come out with a bigger, bulkier and heavier rifle yet lower the physical fitness requirements?
Brilliant.
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Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:31 pm |
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jukk0u
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Location: Lynnwood and at large Joined: Wed May 1, 2013 Posts: 21297
Real Name: Vick Lagina
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I guess they've just come around to what Corpsman has been saying all along: the AR is a mouse gun; time to bring back a true battle gun in a proper caliber.
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Fri Apr 22, 2022 6:52 pm |
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L_O_G
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Location: South Seattle Joined: Thu Sep 22, 2011 Posts: 13486
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jukk0u wrote: I guess they've just come around to what Corpsman has been saying all along: the AR is a mouse gun; time to bring back a true battle gun in a proper caliber. Proper caliber? Absolutely. Jiggly, weak outta shape soldiers with a bigger gun? Yep
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Fri Apr 22, 2022 6:54 pm |
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jukk0u
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Location: Lynnwood and at large Joined: Wed May 1, 2013 Posts: 21297
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"jiggly"
_________________ “Finding ‘common ground’ with the thinking of evil men is a fool’s errand” ~ Herschel Smith
"The said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms." ~ Samuel Adams
“A return to First Principles in a Republic is sometimes caused by simple virtues of a single man. His good example has such an influence that the good men strive to imitate him, and the wicked are ashamed to lead a life so contrary to his example. Before all else, be armed!” ~ Niccolo Machiavelli
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FJB
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Fri Apr 22, 2022 7:32 pm |
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hkhnm
Location: King County Joined: Thu Feb 3, 2022 Posts: 697
Real Name: Russ
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Does Seem like it's SR25 AR-10 mags? I ordered a few more of those. Good excuse.
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Sat Apr 23, 2022 11:27 am |
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jukk0u
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Location: Lynnwood and at large Joined: Wed May 1, 2013 Posts: 21297
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Robust civilian market makes for healthy military: https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/the-a ... un-market/Having innovative private gun manufacturers helps .mil stay up-to-date. (also, mods might consider merging these two topics as the selection is the culmination of this? see last post in thread viewtopic.php?f=40&t=106350&hilit=general+dynamics&start=15 )
_________________ “Finding ‘common ground’ with the thinking of evil men is a fool’s errand” ~ Herschel Smith
"The said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms." ~ Samuel Adams
“A return to First Principles in a Republic is sometimes caused by simple virtues of a single man. His good example has such an influence that the good men strive to imitate him, and the wicked are ashamed to lead a life so contrary to his example. Before all else, be armed!” ~ Niccolo Machiavelli
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FJB
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Mon Apr 25, 2022 4:49 pm |
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jukk0u
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Location: Lynnwood and at large Joined: Wed May 1, 2013 Posts: 21297
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Nice discussion/comparison of the new guns and ammo. "Is it the M14 all over again?" https://gatdaily.com/is-it-the-m14-all- ... paign=4_28I'm sold. I want an MCX/XM5
_________________ “Finding ‘common ground’ with the thinking of evil men is a fool’s errand” ~ Herschel Smith
"The said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms." ~ Samuel Adams
“A return to First Principles in a Republic is sometimes caused by simple virtues of a single man. His good example has such an influence that the good men strive to imitate him, and the wicked are ashamed to lead a life so contrary to his example. Before all else, be armed!” ~ Niccolo Machiavelli
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FJB
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