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AR15L
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Location: Nampa, Idaho Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 19463
Real Name: Rick
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The Hellcat OSP has been out for a while now and I was wondering what is a good optic to get, w/o getting crazy on the price?
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Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:58 am |
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Traut
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Location: Downtown Newcastle Joined: Sat Mar 5, 2016 Posts: 3447
Real Name: Traut
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I just got the Wasp sold by Springfield ($239) for my son's Hellcat. It's entry level, battery on the bottom and ON all the time, so that makes it cheaper than others. Since I got this one, I saw Crimson Trace has a budget model too that looked pretty good...and cheap. Holsun gets a lot of high marks in most of the reviews and would probably have been at the top of a "buy once, cry once list", for not that much more money. When shopping around, go online and check out the charts that show which optics fit the Hellcat "footprint" and then check out the reviews.
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Sun Dec 12, 2021 11:22 am |
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PrinceAliFabulousHe
Location: Ellensburg Joined: Sun May 9, 2021 Posts: 10
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I got one of the Swampfox Sentenials.
It's ok, but does not cowitness well with the irons, so the jury is still out as to whether I keep it or sell it and get an RMSC.
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Tue Dec 14, 2021 8:42 am |
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WAGuess
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Location: Redmond, Washington Joined: Wed Oct 25, 2017 Posts: 523
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You can get a Sig Romeo Zero for around $150-160 when it goes on sale. But if you're buying a new Hellcat OSP, you may be able to get the Hex WASP with the pistol for less than the cost of purchasing pistol + Romeo Zero separately.
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Thu Dec 16, 2021 12:01 am |
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AR15L
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Location: Nampa, Idaho Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 19463
Real Name: Rick
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WAGuess wrote: You can get a Sig Romeo Zero for around $150-160 when it goes on sale. But if you're buying a new Hellcat OSP, you may be able to get the Hex WASP with the pistol for less than the cost of purchasing pistol + Romeo Zero separately. That might be worth looking into.
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Thu Dec 16, 2021 6:16 am |
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AR15L
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Location: Nampa, Idaho Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 19463
Real Name: Rick
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Alexa must of been reading my mind again... Just got this email: Attachment: sig sauer romeo zero.JPG
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Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:06 am |
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AR15L
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Location: Nampa, Idaho Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 19463
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Quote: MOTAC™ (Motion Activated Illumination System) that powers up when it senses motion and powers down when it does not Wait, how does that work if it's your CC on your person and you are moving around all the time? Wouldn't that cause the battery to be on ALL THE TIME?
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Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:12 am |
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MadPick
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Location: Renton, WA Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 Posts: 52036
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AR15L wrote: Quote: MOTAC™ (Motion Activated Illumination System) that powers up when it senses motion and powers down when it does not Wait, how does that work if it's your CC on your person and you are moving around all the time? Wouldn't that cause the battery to be on ALL THE TIME? Yup, except maybe at night when you presumably aren’t wearing it. But the alternative is an always-on dot, which would be on 24 hours a day.
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Thu Dec 16, 2021 10:30 am |
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Traut
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Location: Downtown Newcastle Joined: Sat Mar 5, 2016 Posts: 3447
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The only saving grace with the 'always on' feature on many of these optics is that due to the Auto Brightness control, in dark conditions, the LED/dot is at the lower setting(s). So, theoretically when stored, or in some holsters or concealed carry/EDC situations the battery draw is minimal and might actually get the 2 yr. claimed battery life.
I haven't seen yet whether or how close the units return to being zeroed after being removed to replace the battery and reinstalled. Seems if the iron sights co-witness properly you could just tweak the dot to sit on top of the front sight blade and be close until you can verify at the range? Anybody have any experience with this?
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Thu Dec 16, 2021 11:51 am |
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AR15L
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Location: Nampa, Idaho Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 19463
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AR15L wrote: Alexa must of been reading my mind again... Just got this email: Attachment: sig sauer romeo zero.JPG *************** EDIT After reading further, I decided against this one. I want the 6 MOA, which is not on sale.
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Thu Dec 16, 2021 12:02 pm |
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AR15L
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Location: Nampa, Idaho Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 19463
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Found one! Attachment: euro optic.JPG With free shipping. Gotta ask... does anyone know anything about EURO Optic? eurooptic.com
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Thu Dec 16, 2021 12:21 pm |
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WAGuess
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Location: Redmond, Washington Joined: Wed Oct 25, 2017 Posts: 523
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I can highly recommend EuroOptic. Call up and ask for Brandon, he'll take good care of you.
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Fri Dec 17, 2021 3:04 pm |
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AR15L
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Location: Nampa, Idaho Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 19463
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WAGuess wrote: I can highly recommend EuroOptic. Call up and ask for Brandon, he'll take good care of you.
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Fri Dec 17, 2021 5:25 pm |
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billycee
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Location: Everett-Bothell-Lynnwood Joined: Thu Feb 18, 2021 Posts: 173
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I had the Shield SMSc since release because it was really the only available metal cased dot that was made to fit the Hellcat when the gun was introduced. The SMSc had an aluminum frame but the lens was acrylic that scratched right from the get go. Battery life was about a year for me and the dot did not hold zero after changing out the battery twice. It served its purpose up for about 2 years until this Black Friday.
I recently replaced the SMSc with the Hex Wasp because I still wanted the cowitnessing with the stock sites. Additionally the Wasp has an all metal housing with a slightly longer hood over the glass lens, and is rated IPX7. SA warranty is way better than the Shield warranty. I considered the Swampfox Sentinel but read reviews on it not being able to properly cowitness with the irons. Also didn’t want to add any adapter plates for other brands. Ruled out the Sig because I’m not a fan of polymer cased dots.
Anyhow, good luck with whatever you end up with.
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Mon Dec 20, 2021 7:59 pm |
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AR15L
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Location: Nampa, Idaho Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 19463
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This information is well worth me asking. I do know, after reading more and more, that MOA 6 is my end goal. Just for starters. Everything else, I'm still trying to figure out.
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Tue Dec 21, 2021 6:06 am |
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