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Can a married couple share guns for CC?
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Mediumrarechicken
Location: Puyallup Joined: Thu Aug 16, 2012 Posts: 9065
Real Name: Richard Fitzwelliner
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Guntrader wrote: I'm not giving legal advice, but think you are good to go.
RCW 9.41.113 Firearm sales or transfers—Background checks—Requirements—Exceptions. (4) This section does not apply to: (a) A transfer between immediate family members, which for this subsection shall be limited to spouses, domestic partners, parents, parents-in-law, children, siblings, siblings-in-law, grandparents, grandchildren, nieces, nephews, first cousins, aunts, and uncles, that is a bona fide gift or loan; Does girlfriend count as a domestic partner if she lives with you? Did slugs write that rcw?
_________________ If she sits on your face and you can still hear, SHE'S NOT FAT.
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Sun Oct 03, 2021 5:46 am |
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scrid2000
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Location: Pierce County Joined: Wed Nov 14, 2018 Posts: 1980
Real Name: Shane
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Mediumrarechicken wrote: Guntrader wrote: I'm not giving legal advice, but think you are good to go.
RCW 9.41.113 Firearm sales or transfers—Background checks—Requirements—Exceptions. (4) This section does not apply to: (a) A transfer between immediate family members, which for this subsection shall be limited to spouses, domestic partners, parents, parents-in-law, children, siblings, siblings-in-law, grandparents, grandchildren, nieces, nephews, first cousins, aunts, and uncles, that is a bona fide gift or loan; Does girlfriend count as a domestic partner if she lives with you? Did slugs write that rcw? No, domestic partner means Registered Domestic Partner.
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Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:02 am |
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Mediumrarechicken
Location: Puyallup Joined: Thu Aug 16, 2012 Posts: 9065
Real Name: Richard Fitzwelliner
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scrid2000 wrote: Mediumrarechicken wrote: Guntrader wrote: I'm not giving legal advice, but think you are good to go.
RCW 9.41.113 Firearm sales or transfers—Background checks—Requirements—Exceptions. (4) This section does not apply to: (a) A transfer between immediate family members, which for this subsection shall be limited to spouses, domestic partners, parents, parents-in-law, children, siblings, siblings-in-law, grandparents, grandchildren, nieces, nephews, first cousins, aunts, and uncles, that is a bona fide gift or loan; Does girlfriend count as a domestic partner if she lives with you? Did slugs write that rcw? No, domestic partner means Registered Domestic Partner. I figured that was the case
_________________ If she sits on your face and you can still hear, SHE'S NOT FAT.
I'm going to type out 3 paragraphs and wax eloquently about a similar story in my life. Pm me if you figured it out.
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Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:22 pm |
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Guntrader
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Location: Mukilteoish Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2011 Posts: 11595
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ViniVidivici wrote: Why would you even care?
"Allowed" Seriously?
It's time to stop thinking this way, people. Absolutely. Give an inch and they will take a mile. These are our RIGHTS given to us from our creator. Not to be allowed something .gov lets us have. A lot of FUD's disagree. As long as they don't come for their double barreled shotguns, why would they care.
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Sun Oct 03, 2021 6:06 pm |
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Mediumrarechicken
Location: Puyallup Joined: Thu Aug 16, 2012 Posts: 9065
Real Name: Richard Fitzwelliner
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Guntrader wrote: ViniVidivici wrote: Why would you even care?
"Allowed" Seriously?
It's time to stop thinking this way, people. Absolutely. Give an inch and they will take a mile. These are our RIGHTS given to us from our creator. Not to be allowed something .gov lets us have. A lot of FUD's disagree. As long as they don't come for their double barreled shotguns, why would they care. Yeah... I wouldn't exactly say they came from " our creator". Freedom doesn't come from religion, in fact I've come to learn that religion brings about less freedoms
_________________ If she sits on your face and you can still hear, SHE'S NOT FAT.
I'm going to type out 3 paragraphs and wax eloquently about a similar story in my life. Pm me if you figured it out.
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Mon Oct 04, 2021 1:52 pm |
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ViniVidivici
Location: Puyallup Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2018 Posts: 3026
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Call it whatever you want, some of us are aware that we were ALL created by an intelligent, living God.
Denying that fact does not negate that truth.
That ain't "religion", it's fact.
Wanna be agnostic, or whatever?
YOU, and every other human being who has ever lived, was born with certain unalienable rights.
Our Founding Fathers simply established a form of government that RECOGNIZED that.
Less and less so, of course, with arbitrary nincompoop bullshit "laws", like 594, 1639, and the list goes on and on, at federal and state level.
Until we stand the fuck up like MEN, in UNISON, and OPPOSE, our freedoms will continue to be eroded.
This pearl-clutching mindset of "compliance" is not conducive to freedom.
YOU, and everyone else, are BORN, right off the bat, with certain natural rights.
Get it?
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Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:20 pm |
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NWGunner
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Location: South Seattle Joined: Thu May 2, 2013 Posts: 12419
Real Name: Steve
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Mediumrarechicken wrote: Guntrader wrote: ViniVidivici wrote: Why would you even care?
"Allowed" Seriously?
It's time to stop thinking this way, people. Absolutely. Give an inch and they will take a mile. These are our RIGHTS given to us from our creator. Not to be allowed something .gov lets us have. A lot of FUD's disagree. As long as they don't come for their double barreled shotguns, why would they care. Yeah... I wouldn't exactly say they came from " our creator". Freedom doesn't come from religion, in fact I've come to learn that religion brings about less freedoms Like anything man touches, abuse & neglect is possible. Some churches aren’t really churches, and abuses occur. The sad part is, people are hurt, and they walk away equating that with God.
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Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:27 pm |
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oldkim
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Location: Maple Valley, WA Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 9234
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That is so true. People are leaving “god” in droves.
The sad reality is that it’s the fault of man. Listen to the Words of God. People died publishing the Bible.
It’s all laid out. But you do have to understand the words and that takes energy and time.
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Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:51 pm |
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Unicorn
Joined: Tue Apr 19, 2011 Posts: 2597
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quantsuff wrote: Wait...define "Bona fide gift or loan" What is a non-bona fide gift? Is it a loan if no collateral and/or interest? A bonafide gift is a real gift. An actual gift without any type of exchange of money, goods, or services. Birthday, Christmas, retirement, graduation, wedding, etc. A non bonafide gift starts at something like "gifting" you a 1911 for helping me do some roofing or working on my car. It goes up to what is really a straw purchase with an extra step. People other than banks and pawn shops have loans. You've never let your buddy use your car? Did your parents ever let you use one of their cars? That's a loan. Have you ever let someone borrow a pen to sign something? That's a loan.
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Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:53 pm |
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Unicorn
Joined: Tue Apr 19, 2011 Posts: 2597
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quantsuff wrote: Pvanderzee wrote: quantsuff wrote: Wait...define "Bona fide gift or loan" What is a non-bona fide gift? Is it a loan if no collateral and/or interest? "Bona fide" is latin for "good faith." It means a loan or gift made in good faith. So you can let your wife use or carry the gun you bought in your own name as long as you are doing so in good faith and not just loaning or gifting it to her to skirt some kind of law. wait, gifting is exempt, as long as it is bona fide. one can also transfer to anyone, as long as "(c) A temporary transfer of possession of a firearm if such transfer is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to the person to whom the firearm is transferred if: (i) The temporary transfer only lasts as long as immediately necessary to prevent such imminent death or great bodily harm; and (ii) The person to whom the firearm is transferred is not prohibited from possessing firearms under state or federal law;...." If you're about to be attacked by a rabid grizzly, I can hand you a 45/70 as long as you're not a prohibited person and you give it back as soon as the threat is over. Or if you're about to be attacked by a group of serial killer clowns with machetes I can hand you an 11-87, again as long as you give it right back after and you aren't a prohibited person.
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Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:58 pm |
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quantsuff
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Location: central wa Joined: Mon Mar 21, 2011 Posts: 3549
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Unicorn wrote: quantsuff wrote: Wait...define "Bona fide gift or loan" What is a non-bona fide gift? Is it a loan if no collateral and/or interest? A bonafide gift is a real gift. An actual gift without any type of exchange of money, goods, or services. Birthday, Christmas, retirement, graduation, wedding, etc. A non bonafide gift starts at something like "gifting" you a 1911 for helping me do some roofing or working on my car. It goes up to what is really a straw purchase with an extra step. People other than banks and pawn shops have loans. You've never let your buddy use your car? Did your parents ever let you use one of their cars? That's a loan. Have you ever let someone borrow a pen to sign something? That's a loan. I am not a lawyer, not giving legal advice. However, it seems if we exchange gifts at xmas perhaps there's an issue. There is a potential issue for a pawn broker and my parents letting me use the car both termed "loan". My point is that the text of the law is more ambiguous than I prefer.
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