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S&W bullpup shotgun M&P12
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Site Supporter   Location: no longer in a van down by the river (... at least anywhere near South King County) Joined: Mon Mar 6, 2017 Posts: 1269 
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Hmmm.....
Might have touched on some good things and missed on others? https://www.smith-wesson.com/product/mp-12  |
| Wed Aug 18, 2021 7:38 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: East Renton Plateau Joined: Tue Jul 5, 2011 Posts: 914
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 Site Supporter  Location: Lynnwood and at large Joined: Wed May 1, 2013 Posts: 21296 Real Name: Vick Lagina
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_________________ “Finding ‘common ground’ with the thinking of evil men is a fool’s errand” ~ Herschel Smith "The “A return to First Principles in a Republic is sometimes caused by simple virtues of a single man. His good example has such an influence that the good men strive to imitate him, and the wicked are ashamed to lead a life so contrary to his example. Before all else, be armed!” ~ Niccolo Machiavelli Láodòng zhèng zhūwèi zìyóu FJB |
| Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:15 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: AZ Joined: Fri Aug 17, 2018 Posts: 6798
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My thoughts?
14+1 rds capacity, 22 oz lighter, 100% ambi and not as fugly as $&W: https://www.keltecweapons.com/firearms/shotguns/ksg/ Approx. $800 on GB... Or, if you are OK with 6+1, then this one: https://www.keltecweapons.com/firearms/shotguns/ks7/ It's 43 oz lighter that $&W! Approx. $550 on GB. _________________ FPC member GOA member Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges. Last edited by surevaliance on Wed Aug 18, 2021 1:48 pm, edited 1 time in total. |
| Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:25 am |
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Site Admin   Location: Renton, WA Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 Posts: 52067 Real Name: Steve
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That forward grip may be the most awkward-looking part EVER.
_________________ Steve Benefactor Life Member, National Rifle Association Life Member, Second Amendment Foundation Patriot & Life Member, Gun Owners of America Life Member, Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms Legal Action Supporter, Firearms Policy Coalition Member, NAGR/NFGR Please support the organizations that support all of us. Leave it cleaner than you found it. |
| Wed Aug 18, 2021 9:28 am |
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Site Moderator   Location: Renton/Kent Joined: Wed Feb 15, 2012 Posts: 3550 Real Name: Jacy
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I could take it or leave it. As far as bullpup shotguns go, I've never really had a desire.
That said, if I saw it on the wall at the store for a reasonable price, I'd probably grab one. |
| Wed Aug 18, 2021 9:33 am |
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Site Supporter Location: no longer in a van down by the river (... at least anywhere near South King County) Joined: Mon Mar 6, 2017 Posts: 1269
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jukk0u wrote: Looks like a Keltec? Smells li... No, it would need another metric shit-ton of BHCSs and hex nuts. Last edited by DM47 on Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:10 am, edited 1 time in total. |
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Site Supporter Location: no longer in a van down by the river (... at least anywhere near South King County) Joined: Mon Mar 6, 2017 Posts: 1269
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MadPick wrote: That forward grip may be the most awkward-looking part EVER. Maybe? Maybe not? At least it's removable, mounts on M-LOK slots, and not required for use. That said, .... how do you implement a weapon light? One of S&W's videos quickly shows some stills of various optics mounted on the rail, and a couple of those stills look to show a light of some sort mounted to something (rail? 10-2 slots?), but activating/deactivating a light looks like it's more than just awkward while gripping the fore end. |
| Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:09 am |
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Site Supporter Location: AZ Joined: Fri Aug 17, 2018 Posts: 6798
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DM47 wrote: jukk0u wrote: Looks like a Keltec? Smells li... No, it would need another metric shit-ton of BHCSs and hex nuts. Actually, I counted EXACTLY the same number in M$P12 and KS7...  _________________ FPC member GOA member Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges. |
| Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:47 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Bellingham Canada Joined: Thu Jan 3, 2013 Posts: 4999 Real Name: Josheewa
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8.3# unloaded and $1165? Hard pass. I'd much rather have a Maverick 88 on hand for under $300 OTD.
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| Wed Aug 18, 2021 1:36 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Free At last in NC! Joined: Wed Nov 28, 2012 Posts: 703
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Please give me one with a rifled barrel to defend my boat!
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| Wed Aug 18, 2021 2:11 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Lynnwood and at large Joined: Wed May 1, 2013 Posts: 21296 Real Name: Vick Lagina
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_________________ “Finding ‘common ground’ with the thinking of evil men is a fool’s errand” ~ Herschel Smith "The “A return to First Principles in a Republic is sometimes caused by simple virtues of a single man. His good example has such an influence that the good men strive to imitate him, and the wicked are ashamed to lead a life so contrary to his example. Before all else, be armed!” ~ Niccolo Machiavelli Láodòng zhèng zhūwèi zìyóu FJB |
| Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:15 am |
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Site Admin Location: Renton, WA Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 Posts: 52067 Real Name: Steve
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jukk0u wrote: Eek. That didn't take long. Sounds like both of them that they've sold had cracked barrels. _________________ Steve Benefactor Life Member, National Rifle Association Life Member, Second Amendment Foundation Patriot & Life Member, Gun Owners of America Life Member, Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms Legal Action Supporter, Firearms Policy Coalition Member, NAGR/NFGR Please support the organizations that support all of us. Leave it cleaner than you found it. |
| Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:18 am |
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Site Supporter Location: Lynnwood and at large Joined: Wed May 1, 2013 Posts: 21296 Real Name: Vick Lagina
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MadPick wrote: jukk0u wrote: Eek. That didn't take long. Sounds like both of them that they've sold had cracked barrels. "both of them" lolz _________________ “Finding ‘common ground’ with the thinking of evil men is a fool’s errand” ~ Herschel Smith "The “A return to First Principles in a Republic is sometimes caused by simple virtues of a single man. His good example has such an influence that the good men strive to imitate him, and the wicked are ashamed to lead a life so contrary to his example. Before all else, be armed!” ~ Niccolo Machiavelli Láodòng zhèng zhūwèi zìyóu FJB |
| Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:32 am |
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In Memoriam  Location: Mukilteoish Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2011 Posts: 11595
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Think they would have fired some proof loads through them before hitting the streets.
Like Microsoft. "Lets just let the users test them. Saves a lot of money." It's all funny until someone gets hurt. Then hopefully there is a YouTube video. Like the guy with the cheap ass .50 BMG that almost cost him an eye when it blew off the breach plug. _________________ NRA Endowment Member. How did they know my member was well endowed? |
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