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Site Supporter   Location: Deckerville Joined: Wed Jan 13, 2016 Posts: 2946 Real Name: Rob 
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_________________ “The Democrats are playing you for a political chump and if you vote for them, not only are you a chump, you are a traitor to your race.”-Malcolm X |
| Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:43 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Puyallup for now Joined: Tue May 24, 2011 Posts: 2100
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Price went up, RareBreed wont sell directly to WA residents. Their "exclusive distributor" big daddy unlimited ( subscription service vendor) will ship to WA residents, and the last time I looked they were $350 ish, but not in stock with no guaranteed delivery time.
There's apparently a problem with the spring that does the reset and several YT vids on how to try and fix the triggers. Hard pass from me with those sorts of issues at those sorts of prices. $600 all day long on GB  |
| Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:15 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Bellevue Joined: Fri Feb 15, 2013 Posts: 391 Real Name: Gary
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I'd hate to spend $400+ on a trigger, the law is re-written, then the trigger made illegal with no grandfathering (though I guess you could sell it out of state at that point).
As written technically not illegal as there is no provision for forced resetting but again, don't want to be "that guy" _________________    |
| Wed Mar 03, 2021 12:01 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Pierce County Joined: Wed Nov 14, 2018 Posts: 1992 Real Name: Shane
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freelancer1972 wrote: As written technically not illegal as there is no provision for forced resetting but again, don't want to be "that guy" Bingo. Probably not illegal, but IMO a bump trigger isn't worth the attorney costs you'll have to demonstrate that. _________________ Posts not legal advice. |
| Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:18 pm |
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Site Admin   Location: Renton, WA Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 Posts: 52067 Real Name: Steve
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The applicable Washington state definition is in RCW 9.41.010: https://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9.41.010
Specifically: RCW 9.41.010 wrote: (19) "Machine gun" means any firearm known as a machine gun, mechanical rifle, submachine gun, or any other mechanism or instrument not requiring that the trigger be pressed for each shot and having a reservoir clip, disc, drum, belt, or other separable mechanical device for storing, carrying, or supplying ammunition which can be loaded into the firearm, mechanism, or instrument, and fired therefrom at the rate of five or more shots per second. Note the terms "trigger be pressed for each shot" and "five or more shots per second." My understanding is that binary triggers are generally considered to be machine guns in WA for this reason; you don't "press" the trigger for each shot, and you can fire 5+ shots per second. Now this FRT-15 does actually require a press of the trigger for each shot, right? So maybe it's legit. _________________ Steve Benefactor Life Member, National Rifle Association Life Member, Second Amendment Foundation Patriot & Life Member, Gun Owners of America Life Member, Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms Legal Action Supporter, Firearms Policy Coalition Member, NAGR/NFGR Please support the organizations that support all of us. Leave it cleaner than you found it. |
| Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:32 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Central FL Joined: Sun Apr 7, 2013 Posts: 3207
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Legalize Jerry Michuleck!
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| Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:39 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Pierce County Joined: Wed Nov 14, 2018 Posts: 1992 Real Name: Shane
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MadPick wrote: The applicable Washington state definition is in RCW 9.41.010: https://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9.41.010 Specifically: RCW 9.41.010 wrote: (19) "Machine gun" means any firearm known as a machine gun, mechanical rifle, submachine gun, or any other mechanism or instrument not requiring that the trigger be pressed for each shot and having a reservoir clip, disc, drum, belt, or other separable mechanical device for storing, carrying, or supplying ammunition which can be loaded into the firearm, mechanism, or instrument, and fired therefrom at the rate of five or more shots per second. Note the terms "trigger be pressed for each shot" and "five or more shots per second." My understanding is that binary triggers are generally considered to be machine guns in WA for this reason; you don't "press" the trigger for each shot, and you can fire 5+ shots per second. Now this FRT-15 does actually require a press of the trigger for each shot, right? So maybe it's legit. Other than I think there is more grey area in regard to binary triggers
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| Wed Mar 03, 2021 6:40 pm |
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