Some guy on another forum offered me an Erathr3 klepto in trade. I had never heard of it until I saw it on the page. Anyone know anything? Particularly SHOT show attendees who may have seen one in person?

Over priced boutique ar15.

Mainly marketing.

AR15s are legos. If you gold plate them, they're still legos. Sure, you don't want Duplos, but the differences between a $800 and a $2500 AR are more in what you pay and less in what you get.

This is a bolt gun with Stiller action and Proof barrel.

It’s a cool rifle and it looks like they spared no expense in the development. The price tag is a bit proud. For your money you’d do a lot better to have Tom Ryder build you a custom rifle.

If you want a high end bolt gun it looks like a nice build. Probably won’t get your money out of it on a sale/trade though due to them not being a common name.

This....

Appreciate it, Tom had never heard of them either. I'm not necessarily looking to buy such a rig but was just contemplating the trade aspect.

Lol

He never even said how much trade value it is, and half of ya didn’t know what it is and giving advice

Have any of you actually held, shot one?

They make quality shit.



Haha

So your saying a clapped out PSA is the same as a KAC but. Just more money...

I agree to your first point, that members are sometimes far too quick to give an opinion without dutifully reading a subject, but value isn't quite so easy to determine without neoclassical economics, which are quite impossible to nail down in an artificially inflated market which fluctuates daily. I would argue that in such times, the objective values are far outweighed by subjective values.

Which has more value... The $2500 AR that lives in your safe because you are afraid to lose value through use..... Or the $300 PSA build that gets used and abused, all the while building skills and confidence?

Personal story: About a year ago, a business acquaintance invited over for dinner decided that it was show and tell time after the subject of rifles and preparedness came up. He brought in his "truck gun", which was bar none ..the fanciest AR pistol I've ever seen. He explained that it was a carbine graphite barreled, $3500 blah blah blah. It looked brand new, without any signs of use. When I asked him how it shot, he was incredulous that I would suggest devaluing his investment through USE!

Yes....I would absolutely argue that my $300 PSA build, reaching the end of it's barrel life, scratched all to shit with 3 different coats of krylon, is more valuable than that boutique POS. I KNOW that my rifle will function.

Therein lies the rub of the argument. If you collect guns for intrinsic value as a commodity, your value of them is sustained only by the existing market. If you invest in guns as tools...than their value is defined by the work they can do. A $10,000 set of snap-on tools is completely worthless to an individual with no mechanical aptitude. Conversely, a rifle with a price tag so high as to interfere with it's usefulness, does NOT make the owner more proficient. Hence, IMO...no value beyond show and tell.

AR's aren't collectible are they? They won't ever appreciate in value. There are hundreds of millions of them. You buy an AR to shoot, not be a safe queen.

That bolt gun? If you could get it with the s&b scope for $2k in trade you should do it.

Let me just quote that so we don't lose it . . . may need to reference that hypothesis in the future.