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 BFD: A Blowback Piston 1911? 
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"The patented BFD Piston Blowback System replaces the movable barrel swinging link locking system of the 1911 pistol with a fixed barrell Piston blowback system consisting of a fixed barrel, gas tube and piston. This is truly a revolutionary advancement in the 1911 design that allows for less muzzle climb and an easier gun to shoot."

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Sat Jan 18, 2020 9:42 pm
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Ejection pattern seemed a bit erratic, wonder what the MSRP is going to be?


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hmmm, if it can come in ultra just might be my next piece

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Free Boer wrote:
Ejection pattern seemed a bit erratic


Not to mention it's compensated with a whole lot of extra length and weight on the Muzzle end.

They claim less muzzle climb, that's what happens when you do the above.

It certainly isn't configured as a carry gun with that length, i'll stick to my John Browning designs.

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That is very cool!


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There was a gas operated 1911 (worked a lot like the Desert Eagle) some years back. Designed for competition really as it had less reciprocating mass and the time between shots could be lightning quick.

I guess the juice wasn't worth the squeeze b/c it never took off. The websites I found with related designs all look like they were built by a 15 year old in 2002.

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I wonder if that whole compensator segment could be shortened or eliminated and if so, what that would do to barrel rise/control.

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jukk0u wrote:
I wonder if that whole compensator segment could be shortened or eliminated and if so, what that would do to barrel rise/control.


It would negate what they claim as far as rise and flip. The Accuracy claim? I have no idea, but it's not a usable carry gun as configured.
Many have tried to improve on the design, none have succeeded at this point in time.

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Sounds like a piston retarded gas design used in the HK P-7, Walther CCP, and Volkssturmgewehr from the 1940's.
Nothing new, a design that didn't catch on.
Guess nobody likes a retard.

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A fixed barrel with a 1911 trigger could a good shooter and easy to manufacture.


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How come when I read the title, the first thing I think of is: Big Fucking Deal?
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How come when I read the title, the first thing I think of is: Big Fucking Deal?
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You too?

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No thanks. JMB did it right the first time.

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usrifle wrote:
jukk0u wrote:
I wonder if that whole compensator segment could be shortened or eliminated and if so, what that would do to barrel rise/control.


It would negate what they claim as far as rise and flip. The Accuracy claim? I have no idea, but it's not a usable carry gun as configured.
Many have tried to improve on the design, none have succeeded at this point in time.


Beg to differ since now most 1911s come with a full length guide rod, beaver tail safety, and commander hammer. While the basic principal and shape is the same, there have been a few tweaks since 1911, hell you couldn’t get half the stuff they have now for the ol .45 30 years go without seeking a gunsmith.


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usrifle wrote:
jukk0u wrote:
I wonder if that whole compensator segment could be shortened or eliminated and if so, what that would do to barrel rise/control.


It would negate what they claim as far as rise and flip. The Accuracy claim? I have no idea, but it's not a usable carry gun as configured.
Many have tried to improve on the design, none have succeeded at this point in time.


Beg to differ since now most 1911s come with a full length guide rod, beaver tail safety, and commander hammer.


None of those things you mentioned would have any effect on rise and flip with a 1911. Well, possibly a little with the beaver tail.
In that BFD design it's all about the extra 2" of weight at the Muzzle end...and what appears to be a compensator.

Yeah, not impressed. John Moses Browning got it right the first time. Sure their have been some minor tweaks for improvements, but the basic design remains as far as function.
Sometimes you just don't need to reinvent the wheel.
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