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jukk0u
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Location: Lynnwood and at large Joined: Wed May 1, 2013 Posts: 21268
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https://gundynamics.com/products/better ... 0117182828"The patented BFD Piston Blowback System replaces the movable barrel swinging link locking system of the 1911 pistol with a fixed barrell Piston blowback system consisting of a fixed barrel, gas tube and piston. This is truly a revolutionary advancement in the 1911 design that allows for less muzzle climb and an easier gun to shoot."
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Sat Jan 18, 2020 9:42 pm |
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Free Boer
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Location: centralia Joined: Mon Feb 13, 2012 Posts: 1352
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Ejection pattern seemed a bit erratic, wonder what the MSRP is going to be?
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Sat Jan 18, 2020 9:52 pm |
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cmica
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Location: I-5 /512 Joined: Thu Dec 8, 2011 Posts: 15231
Real Name: chris
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hmmm, if it can come in ultra just might be my next piece
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Sat Jan 18, 2020 9:55 pm |
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usrifle
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Location: RENTON Joined: Fri Mar 25, 2011 Posts: 20771
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Free Boer wrote: Ejection pattern seemed a bit erratic Not to mention it's compensated with a whole lot of extra length and weight on the Muzzle end. They claim less muzzle climb, that's what happens when you do the above. It certainly isn't configured as a carry gun with that length, i'll stick to my John Browning designs.
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Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:29 pm |
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Bruce556
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That is very cool!
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Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:33 pm |
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hkcavalier
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Location: NE WA Joined: Tue Oct 18, 2011 Posts: 5487
Real Name: The Dude
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There was a gas operated 1911 (worked a lot like the Desert Eagle) some years back. Designed for competition really as it had less reciprocating mass and the time between shots could be lightning quick.
I guess the juice wasn't worth the squeeze b/c it never took off. The websites I found with related designs all look like they were built by a 15 year old in 2002.
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Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:56 pm |
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jukk0u
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Location: Lynnwood and at large Joined: Wed May 1, 2013 Posts: 21268
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I wonder if that whole compensator segment could be shortened or eliminated and if so, what that would do to barrel rise/control.
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"The said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms." ~ Samuel Adams
“A return to First Principles in a Republic is sometimes caused by simple virtues of a single man. His good example has such an influence that the good men strive to imitate him, and the wicked are ashamed to lead a life so contrary to his example. Before all else, be armed!” ~ Niccolo Machiavelli
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FJB
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Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:06 pm |
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usrifle
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Location: RENTON Joined: Fri Mar 25, 2011 Posts: 20771
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jukk0u wrote: I wonder if that whole compensator segment could be shortened or eliminated and if so, what that would do to barrel rise/control. It would negate what they claim as far as rise and flip. The Accuracy claim? I have no idea, but it's not a usable carry gun as configured. Many have tried to improve on the design, none have succeeded at this point in time.
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Guntrader
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Location: Mukilteoish Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2011 Posts: 11595
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Sounds like a piston retarded gas design used in the HK P-7, Walther CCP, and Volkssturmgewehr from the 1940's. Nothing new, a design that didn't catch on. Guess nobody likes a retard.
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Bruce556
Joined: Tue Jul 14, 2015 Posts: 1045
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A fixed barrel with a 1911 trigger could a good shooter and easy to manufacture.
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Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:00 am |
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AR15L
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Location: Nampa, Idaho Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 19463
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How come when I read the title, the first thing I think of is: Big Fucking Deal?
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Traut
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Location: Downtown Newcastle Joined: Sat Mar 5, 2016 Posts: 3447
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AR15L wrote: How come when I read the title, the first thing I think of is: Big Fucking Deal? You too?
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OhShoot!
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Location: Bellingham Canada Joined: Thu Jan 3, 2013 Posts: 4999
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No thanks. JMB did it right the first time.
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Ace
Location: KC area Missouri Joined: Sat Sep 10, 2016 Posts: 1572
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usrifle wrote: jukk0u wrote: I wonder if that whole compensator segment could be shortened or eliminated and if so, what that would do to barrel rise/control. It would negate what they claim as far as rise and flip. The Accuracy claim? I have no idea, but it's not a usable carry gun as configured. Many have tried to improve on the design, none have succeeded at this point in time. Beg to differ since now most 1911s come with a full length guide rod, beaver tail safety, and commander hammer. While the basic principal and shape is the same, there have been a few tweaks since 1911, hell you couldn’t get half the stuff they have now for the ol .45 30 years go without seeking a gunsmith.
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usrifle
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Location: RENTON Joined: Fri Mar 25, 2011 Posts: 20771
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Ace wrote: usrifle wrote: jukk0u wrote: I wonder if that whole compensator segment could be shortened or eliminated and if so, what that would do to barrel rise/control. It would negate what they claim as far as rise and flip. The Accuracy claim? I have no idea, but it's not a usable carry gun as configured. Many have tried to improve on the design, none have succeeded at this point in time. Beg to differ since now most 1911s come with a full length guide rod, beaver tail safety, and commander hammer. None of those things you mentioned would have any effect on rise and flip with a 1911. Well, possibly a little with the beaver tail. In that BFD design it's all about the extra 2" of weight at the Muzzle end...and what appears to be a compensator. Yeah, not impressed. John Moses Browning got it right the first time. Sure their have been some minor tweaks for improvements, but the basic design remains as far as function. Sometimes you just don't need to reinvent the wheel. YMMV
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