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leadcounsel
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Location: Can't say Joined: Sun Sep 7, 2014 Posts: 8134
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Well, that was heavy and I hope Bri gets the ongoing help needed, emotionally and financially. While I do think it's clear it was lawful self defense when faced with imminent fear of death or serious injury, I don't think she does herself any favors in granting this interview. I found her to really need some refinements in language, and she seems to give some admissions for which I would advise against. That's about all I'll say on that. I think we all can learn a lot from her experience, however. The costs - emotional, legal, financial, and otherwise - is a very important reminder to avoid these stupid confrontations at all costs. Move away from the jerks on the road, rather than engaging them in road rage, for example. Disengage. Don't up the ante.
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Thu Aug 16, 2018 2:31 pm |
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Nate
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Location: South Puget Sound (sounds more hoity toity than Puyallup) Joined: Sat Oct 22, 2011 Posts: 1351
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leadcounsel wrote: The costs - emotional, legal, financial, and otherwise - is a very important reminder to avoid these stupid confrontations at all costs. Move away from the jerks on the road, rather than engaging them in road rage, for example. Disengage. Don't up the ante. I hear ya, and agree 1000%, and even though I try my best, I'm only successful about 99% of the time. Some of them just manage to find that one hidden button that I don't know exists, and they push it. Effing douchebags.
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Thu Aug 16, 2018 3:54 pm |
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mmalleck
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Location: Bellevue area - WA Joined: Wed Jan 9, 2013 Posts: 1436
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So, it seems like we could show her some support via her GoFundMe page. https://www.gofundme.com/Aubrey-Taylers-Support-FundIt was interesting to hear her side of the story.
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Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:28 pm |
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leadcounsel
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Location: Can't say Joined: Sun Sep 7, 2014 Posts: 8134
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She could sell that bike, which is in my educated guess a luxury item in a state where it rains 9 months out of the year. I bet she has a practical vehicle. One of the things I wasn't gonna mention from the interview. Not a good look, claiming everything gives you PTS when you still ride the same bike ... beg for money online sitting on a $10,000 toy. I urge people to carry self defense insurance. $100 annually, covers like $50k in legal fees.
_________________ I defend the 2A. US Army Combat Veteran and Paratrooper: OIF Veteran. BSM and MSM recipient. NRA Lifetime. Entertainment purposes only. I'm a lawyer, but have not offered you legal advice.
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Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:34 pm |
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TechnoWeenie
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Location: Nova Laboratories Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2011 Posts: 18474
Real Name: Johnny 5
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Damnit Mike! She's a member and will probably read this so.... FMJ? Please reevaluate your carry ammo.
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Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:01 pm |
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UpDog
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Location: Burien Joined: Wed Oct 5, 2011 Posts: 3308
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TechnoWeenie wrote: [
FMJ? Please reevaluate your carry ammo. Why? Did it not work as expected?
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Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:22 pm |
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TechnoWeenie
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Location: Nova Laboratories Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2011 Posts: 18474
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UpDog wrote: TechnoWeenie wrote: [
FMJ? Please reevaluate your carry ammo. Why? Did it not work as expected? Might not work so well..if there's a 'next time'. The idea is, stack the odds in your favor. You're in a fight for your life...
_________________NO DISASSEMBLE!Thomas Paine wrote: "He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself."
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Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:37 pm |
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Pablo
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Location: Everson, WA Joined: Sun Jan 6, 2013 Posts: 28191
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UpDog wrote: TechnoWeenie wrote: [
FMJ? Please reevaluate your carry ammo. Why? Did it not work as expected? Indeed. Plus if you listen she was on the way home from the range. I wasn't paying that much attention, but were there witnesses to his attack on her?
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Fri Aug 17, 2018 2:31 am |
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TechnoWeenie
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Location: Nova Laboratories Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2011 Posts: 18474
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Pablo wrote: (....) if you listen she was on the way home from the range.
I did listen. Complacency is no excuse. Why the hell would anyone be against stacking the deck in their favor? I've posted my own eff ups in the hope that others learn from my mistakes....So too, can she learn from hers.
_________________NO DISASSEMBLE!Thomas Paine wrote: "He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself."
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Fri Aug 17, 2018 2:39 am |
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dennydp
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leadcounsel wrote: She could sell that bike, which is in my educated guess a luxury item in a state where it rains 9 months out of the year. I bet she has a practical vehicle. One of the things I wasn't gonna mention from the interview. Not a good look, claiming everything gives you PTS when you still ride the same bike ... beg for money online sitting on a $10,000 toy. I urge people to carry self defense insurance. $100 annually, covers like $50k in legal fees. People commute year around on their bikes,she may too. For lots of people a motorcycle is stress relief. Why should she have to give up transportation because you think it's a luxury item? Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk
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UpDog
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TechnoWeenie wrote: UpDog wrote: TechnoWeenie wrote: [
FMJ? Please reevaluate your carry ammo. Why? Did it not work as expected? Might not work so well..if there's a 'next time'. The idea is, stack the odds in your favor. You're in a fight for your life... Still didn’t answer why. You just came back with a stupid “if” situation that wasn’t even a situation.
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TechnoWeenie
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Location: Nova Laboratories Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2011 Posts: 18474
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UpDog wrote: TechnoWeenie wrote: UpDog wrote: TechnoWeenie wrote: [
FMJ? Please reevaluate your carry ammo. Why? Did it not work as expected? Might not work so well..if there's a 'next time'. The idea is, stack the odds in your favor. You're in a fight for your life... Still didn’t answer why. You just came back with a stupid “if” situation that wasn’t even a situation. Because: Terminal ballistics. Science, bish! Expanding HP like Ranger T, HST, or Golden Saber do considerable more damage than an FMJ.
_________________NO DISASSEMBLE!Thomas Paine wrote: "He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself."
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sportsdad60
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Location: The banana belt of MT Joined: Wed Dec 30, 2015 Posts: 8587
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I wonder if the FMJ penetrated completely?
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Arisaka
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Location: Tacoma Joined: Sat May 4, 2013 Posts: 6217
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Nothing good comes from talking with the press. Ever.
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codfather
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Location: Rainier Joined: Sat Jun 28, 2014 Posts: 1502
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Love the language....very lady like
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