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One of the (many) problems with automatically adding every person being treated for a mental health issue to any sort of list or database is that all sorts of disorders and syndromes fall under the "mental health" banner.

Eating disorders are not only considered a mental health issue, they're actually a major category in the mental health spectrum. Does it make sense, either at an individual level or at the administrative level, to flag every bulimia sufferer as a prohibited person? Hoarding is also a form of mental illness, but is someone who fills their house with books inherently dangerous? Claustrophobia is a mental illness. And isn't it possible that even more issues will be added to the "mental health" bucket as time goes on, putting greater numbers of people on the watch list du jour?

Actually making a difference in identifying and helping people with genuine dangerous tendencies (or at least preventing more of them from hurting others) will take a lot of work. People don't like work. People like labels and telling others that they're a victim of something and getting attention. Until people are willing to abandon the easy stuff and commit to the hard stuff, things probably won't change much.

A teacher in Florida gave her thoughts, and they're spot on. This site is kind of a mess but about halfway down the page they print her Facebook post in its entirety. https://rare.us/rare-news/florida-teachers-sincere-response-to-the-murders-of-17-shared-600000-times-and-counting/

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another idiot of the day: http://keprtv.com/news/offbeat/is-it-more-important-than-someones-life-man-destroys-ar-15-in-wake-of-florida-shooting

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"Is the right to own this weapon more important than someone's life?... Look at the pictures of those victims. Is that right more important?," says Pappalardo before stating that he wants to make sure his gun is never capable of taking someone's life.

He then gets up and proceeds to saw off the barrel of his gun.

"Now, there's one less."


about $150 will fix that, ya dumb fuck! :gibbs:
"I can't live knowing that my gun could one day possibly commit a horrific act like that"

Hey dumb fuck, I got news for ya, inanimate objects are incapable of independent action. In other words you would never have had to worry about your scary black gun doing anything.

Might as well cut your car in two while you are at it lest someone steal it. Ya never knoe.... your car could potentially kill someone. All on its own too. SMH

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another idiot of the day: http://keprtv.com/news/offbeat/is-it-more-important-than-someones-life-man-destroys-ar-15-in-wake-of-florida-shooting

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"Is the right to own this weapon more important than someone's life?... Look at the pictures of those victims. Is that right more important?," says Pappalardo before stating that he wants to make sure his gun is never capable of taking someone's life.

He then gets up and proceeds to saw off the barrel of his gun.

"Now, there's one less."


about $150 will fix that, ya dumb fuck! :gibbs:



Looks like he just manufactured an SBR to me

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Umm...he just made an illegal SBR on camera. Instant felon! Bravo dumbass

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Wow, that one was early enough to not have a shell deflector...

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The NRA is winning the spin battle

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2018/02/20/the-nra-is-winning-the-spin-battle/?utm_term=.ab1a94ef4a24

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What’s more concerning is the poll’s finding that 57 percent believe that mass shootings more reflect “problems identifying and treating people with mental health problems” rather than inadequate gun control laws. Only 28 percent say the latter. (Nine percent say both.) And 77 percent believe the Florida shooting could have been prevented by more effective mental health screening.


Call me crazy but that sounds to me like its encouraging. Especially when a shit-ton of the stuff we know about this shitbag points to the fact that it could have been prevented if adults had heeded the red flags along the way.

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"Half the harm that is done in this world is due to people who want to feel important. They don't mean to do harm -- but the harm does not interest them. Or they do not see it, or they justify it because they are absorbed in the endless struggle to think well of themselves." – T.S. Eliot

"The right of self defence is the first law of nature: in most governments it has been the study of rulers to confine this right within the narrowest limits possible. Wherever standing armies are kept up, and the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under any colour or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already annihilated, is on the brink of destruction." - St. George Tucker

A careful definition of words would destroy half the agenda of the political left and scrutinizing evidence would destroy the other half. - Thomas Sowell

"To ban guns because criminals use them is to tell the innocent and law-abiding that their rights and liberties depend not on their own conduct, but on the conduct of the guilty and the lawless, and that the law will permit them to have only such rights and liberties as the lawless will allow...

For society does not control crime, ever, by forcing the law-abiding to accommodate themselves to the expected behavior of criminals. Society controls crime by forcing the criminals to accommodate themselves to the expected behavior of the law-abiding." - Jeff Snyder

Personal weapons are what raised mankind out of the mud, and the rifle is the queen of personal weapons. The possession of a good rifle, as well as the skill to use it well, truly makes a man the monarch of all he surveys. It realizes the ancient dream of the Jovian thunderbolt, and as such it is the embodiment of personal power. For this reason it exercises a curious influence over the minds of most men, and in its best examples it constitutes an object of affection unmatched by any other inanimate object.

Jeff Cooper
1997 The Art of the Rifle Page 1.

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SUGGEST CASE BE SUBMITTED ON APPELLANT'S BRIEF. UNABLE TO OBTAIN ANY MONEY FROM CLIENTS TO BE PRESENT & ARGUE BRIEF.

The defense attorney's telegram to the clerk of the Supreme Court, March 29, 1939, in re United States. v. Miller.

You don't need to go to Law School to understand the constitutional implications of that.

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I don't want to be told that I can't remove the tree by some tree-hugging pole smoker from the eat-a-dick foundation/Olympia/King County.


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The NRA is winning the spin battle

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2018/02/20/the-nra-is-winning-the-spin-battle/?utm_term=.ab1a94ef4a24

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What’s more concerning is the poll’s finding that 57 percent believe that mass shootings more reflect “problems identifying and treating people with mental health problems” rather than inadequate gun control laws. Only 28 percent say the latter. (Nine percent say both.) And 77 percent believe the Florida shooting could have been prevented by more effective mental health screening.


Call me crazy but that sounds to me like its encouraging. Especially when a shit-ton of the stuff we know about this shitbag points to the fact that it could have been prevented if adults had heeded the red flags along the way.



More people are actually realizing the laws on the book ARE being used and these guys aren't just buying guns randomly off the street. least the couple people who are somewhat anti-gun that ive talked too are realizing that. The fact the FBI/other gov't agencies have now "missed" the what last three-four shooters is proving that point to people.


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"Half the harm that is done in this world is due to people who want to feel important. They don't mean to do harm -- but the harm does not interest them. Or they do not see it, or they justify it because they are absorbed in the endless struggle to think well of themselves." – T.S. Eliot

"The right of self defence is the first law of nature: in most governments it has been the study of rulers to confine this right within the narrowest limits possible. Wherever standing armies are kept up, and the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under any colour or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already annihilated, is on the brink of destruction." - St. George Tucker

A careful definition of words would destroy half the agenda of the political left and scrutinizing evidence would destroy the other half. - Thomas Sowell

"To ban guns because criminals use them is to tell the innocent and law-abiding that their rights and liberties depend not on their own conduct, but on the conduct of the guilty and the lawless, and that the law will permit them to have only such rights and liberties as the lawless will allow...

For society does not control crime, ever, by forcing the law-abiding to accommodate themselves to the expected behavior of criminals. Society controls crime by forcing the criminals to accommodate themselves to the expected behavior of the law-abiding." - Jeff Snyder

Personal weapons are what raised mankind out of the mud, and the rifle is the queen of personal weapons. The possession of a good rifle, as well as the skill to use it well, truly makes a man the monarch of all he surveys. It realizes the ancient dream of the Jovian thunderbolt, and as such it is the embodiment of personal power. For this reason it exercises a curious influence over the minds of most men, and in its best examples it constitutes an object of affection unmatched by any other inanimate object.

Jeff Cooper
1997 The Art of the Rifle Page 1.

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SUGGEST CASE BE SUBMITTED ON APPELLANT'S BRIEF. UNABLE TO OBTAIN ANY MONEY FROM CLIENTS TO BE PRESENT & ARGUE BRIEF.

The defense attorney's telegram to the clerk of the Supreme Court, March 29, 1939, in re United States. v. Miller.

You don't need to go to Law School to understand the constitutional implications of that.

“You can’t cut the throat of every cocksucker whose character it would improve.”
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I don't want to be told that I can't remove the tree by some tree-hugging pole smoker from the eat-a-dick foundation/Olympia/King County.


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another idiot of the day: http://keprtv.com/news/offbeat/is-it-more-important-than-someones-life-man-destroys-ar-15-in-wake-of-florida-shooting

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"Is the right to own this weapon more important than someone's life?... Look at the pictures of those victims. Is that right more important?," says Pappalardo before stating that he wants to make sure his gun is never capable of taking someone's life.

He then gets up and proceeds to saw off the barrel of his gun.

"Now, there's one less."


about $150 will fix that, ya dumb fuck! :gibbs:



Looks like he just manufactured an SBR to me


He shows in his FB page that he cut it through the receiver with a pic of the gun in 3 parts. Still who says he cut his trigger or BCG? I think the guy was thinking he was going to pander to people, make a cut that is easy to fix, and if his gun is that old he probably needed a new barrel anyway, replace the gas tube and barrel and still have the gun. I heard he's been getting a lot of shit for not cutting where it counts and cut down the middle of the receiver. Still a dumbass. The only way that gun was going to hurt anyone is if he did it, or didn't keep his stuff secured enough and got robbed.


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