Yes, most sentencing statutes are local level. Don't let the circus in the national legislature or the lib media's fixation on it distract you.
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[Beto O'Rourke Suggests Police Would 'Visit' Homes To Implement Proposed Assault Weapons Ban] "In that case, I think that there would be a visit by law enforcement to recover that firearm... ..."If someone does not turn in an AR-15 or an AK-47, one of these weapons of war...then that weapon will be taken from them"
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Thu Jun 23, 2022 3:16 pm
Pablo
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Republicans have offered solutions but libs and their media won't enact them. 70-90% of murder is committed by repeat offenders. Longer mandatory sentences and bans on plea bargaining will fix that easily and be cheaper than expensive repeat manhunts, booking, processing, trials and sentencing so taxes go down too.
I'm making the distinction between talking/offering solutions and actually writing and trying to pass legislation. I don't pretend to have my ear to the ground on all of this, but maybe along the lines of what Pablo mentioned, maybe a lot of the things republicans are trying are being done on a more local/state level, and not getting the attention of glamorous Federal legislation. But if they've written and proposed legislation for solutions, I probably just missed it.
What EXACT legislation are you looking for?
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Thu Jun 23, 2022 3:34 pm
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Republicans have offered solutions but libs and their media won't enact them. 70-90% of murder is committed by repeat offenders. Longer mandatory sentences and bans on plea bargaining will fix that easily and be cheaper than expensive repeat manhunts, booking, processing, trials and sentencing so taxes go down too.
I'm making the distinction between talking/offering solutions and actually writing and trying to pass legislation. I don't pretend to have my ear to the ground on all of this, but maybe along the lines of what Pablo mentioned, maybe a lot of the things republicans are trying are being done on a more local/state level, and not getting the attention of glamorous Federal legislation. But if they've written and proposed legislation for solutions, I probably just missed it.
I think Alpine's point is a solid one. Basically, why do we need more laws when we could just solve many of our problems my enforcing the laws we have?
If someone commits the crime, make them do the time. It's that simple. No more of the bullshit non-arrest or non-prosecution approachs that are being taken in so many of our cities.
And part of this is recognizing that while school shootings get 99% of the press, everyday murders are 99% of the problem. Statistically speaking, if we want to look at this from a rational and non-emotional point of view, school shootings are pretty irrelevant.
Ya and also if we reduce 90% of the non-school shooting murders it will likely have a sympathetic response on reducing school shooting murders too because -police resources are more available -there's less of a culture of violence and murder and media focus on murder -more tax dollars for protection and mental health And myriad others I can't even think of right now.
It's hard to imagine a future where violent criminals are kept locked up, society gets safer and school shootings just keep going regardless. Keep in mind how often society was warned about these school shooters ahead of time and authorities did nothing.
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“I want to make something clear, I’m going to guarantee you this is not the last you’ve seen of him (Beto),” Biden said Monday evening during a campaign rally in Dallas. “You’re (Beto) going to take care of the gun problem with me. You’re (Beto) going to be the one who leads this effort.”
[Beto O'Rourke Suggests Police Would 'Visit' Homes To Implement Proposed Assault Weapons Ban] "In that case, I think that there would be a visit by law enforcement to recover that firearm... ..."If someone does not turn in an AR-15 or an AK-47, one of these weapons of war...then that weapon will be taken from them"
Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:13 pm
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…Basically, why do we need more laws when we could just solve many of our problems my enforcing the laws we have?…
Exactly.
But that’s the knee-jerk reaction by politicians to ‘give the appearance’ that they’re doing something.
An easy case-in-point example that’s in the headlines, along with this, is the Supreme Court Justice security. They want to act like they need new laws passed for their security.
There are already laws on the books, but Dems want to act like there isn’t one, because then the public would realize they’re just choosing to not enforce it.
It’s another clown show, and they think people don’t know.
November will hurt…
Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:37 pm
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Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:47 pm
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15 RINOs voted to take away your rights. Several are up for reelection. Let's make sure they lose those races.
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“I want to make something clear, I’m going to guarantee you this is not the last you’ve seen of him (Beto),” Biden said Monday evening during a campaign rally in Dallas. “You’re (Beto) going to take care of the gun problem with me. You’re (Beto) going to be the one who leads this effort.”
[Beto O'Rourke Suggests Police Would 'Visit' Homes To Implement Proposed Assault Weapons Ban] "In that case, I think that there would be a visit by law enforcement to recover that firearm... ..."If someone does not turn in an AR-15 or an AK-47, one of these weapons of war...then that weapon will be taken from them"
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Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:03 pm
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Most of them are retiring. A last hoorah that I’m sure padded their post political pockets.
Yep, said the same thing. Just shows that most of them are deep state fixtures that are more often RINO's than people willing to stand for the people they are supposed to represent.
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Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:19 pm
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Not hard to find. Have you been paying attention? If you are getting your news from CNN guess not.
Those are all parts of the bill that most of us would support or while maybe not wholeheartedly at least understand. What you failed to list is a big amount of money to push states to pass red flag laws. You know those laws that violate the 4th, 14th, and several other amendments. That ignores innocent until proven guilty. Seizure of private property without the right to defend yourself. You know those little things that every authoritarian regime in existence does to take power. That is the biggest and nastiest part of the bills that these traitors who call themselves republicans voted for. There are a few other more minor that is all window dressing. And once again do we really need yet another broad spending bill from the feds that the states themselves could actually do?
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