Funny how fast it went from Russia attacked Poland, to Ukraine fired missiles that killed 2 in Poland, but its still Russia's fault. ...
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"This is not Ukraine's fault. Russia bears ultimate responsibility as it continues its illegal war against Ukraine," NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg told reporters in Brussels.
Perhaps this is war equivalent to "felony murder rule" legal concept ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felony_murder_rule )... But some should talk about possibility of "false flag" operation by Uk to keep NATO engaged. Missing anti-air defence missiles are not usually fall to the ground exploding. S-300 (as identified in fragments) though is routinely being reprogrammed as poor-man ground-to-ground by both Russians and Ukraine.... Which would point to the intent to use next massive missile barrage by Russia to simulate a "fly-away"...
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Wed Nov 16, 2022 9:58 am
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Funny how fast it went from Russia attacked Poland, to Ukraine fired missiles that killed 2 in Poland, but its still Russia's fault.
I would agree, it's Russia's fault, ultimately.
They launch a missile barrage at civilian areas all over Ukraine, Ukraine scrambles to defend itself, and a missile lands in Poland. Yeah, that sucks for the Poles, but I can't really say that I can blame Ukraine, or that I'd expect them to do anything different next time.
For those who haven't seen this documentary I highly recommend it. It was made a few years ago and covers the history of modern Ukraine and the roots of what is currently going on that started in World War 2. The historical facts and actions of these parties are not in dispute, and there is video evidence of the actors involved doing the actions they are accused of.
Here's a link to the doc. It's called Ukraine on Fire, it was made by Oliver Stone a few years ago. Yeah he's a little weird on some stuff but the doc is well done. Not saying Russia are the white hats or the good guys, but there's a lot of dirt on both sides and the history of nazism and neo-nazis in Ukraine is often covered up by the liberal media. https://rumble.com/vwv87d-ukraine-and-r ... -or-a.html
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“I want to make something clear, I’m going to guarantee you this is not the last you’ve seen of him (Beto),” Biden said Monday evening during a campaign rally in Dallas. “You’re (Beto) going to take care of the gun problem with me. You’re (Beto) going to be the one who leads this effort.”
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An enormous explosion has hit one of Russia's major gas pipelines, sending flames and smoke billowing into the sky above and prompting fears it was a retribution attack for Vladimir Putin's continued invasion of Ukraine.
The fireball was visible for miles in every direction after hitting about 14 miles east of St Petersburg, the nation's second largest city and Putin's hometown.
One source said: 'Everything is automatic there, and such explosions by themselves, without external influence, are impossible.'
The blast is believed to have hit the main gas pipeline belonging to Gazprom Transgaz SPB, and could have potentially impacted up to one million people.
Ambulances and emergency vehicles were rushing to the scene this afternoon. Eyewitnesses reported intensive care vehicles also drove to the site of the explosion.
It's understood investigators and forensic specialists were also at the site of the explosion as they rush to determine the cause.
However, the major blast did not hit close to residential areas, and there are no initial reports of casualties coming out of Russia.
Asymmetrical winter war on energy is expanding... While Russia is busy to demolish Uk energy infrastructure to freeze the country out with intermediate range missiles and drone barrages, Uk is apparently trying to respond in kind with whatever they can do - sabotage, naval drone strikes to make that war felt in Russia...
_________________ “Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.”
― Ronald ReaganOct. 27, 1964
Sun Nov 20, 2022 12:32 pm
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Funny how fast it went from Russia attacked Poland, to Ukraine fired missiles that killed 2 in Poland, but its still Russia's fault.
I would agree, it's Russia's fault, ultimately.
They launch a missile barrage at civilian areas all over Ukraine, Ukraine scrambles to defend itself, and a missile lands in Poland. Yeah, that sucks for the Poles, but I can't really say that I can blame Ukraine, or that I'd expect them to do anything different next time.
With how adamant Ukraine is in denying it, some will wonder of they are being blamed to prevent saying Russia attacked a NATO country even if by accident.
Wed Nov 23, 2022 6:17 am
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Funny how fast it went from Russia attacked Poland, to Ukraine fired missiles that killed 2 in Poland, but its still Russia's fault.
I would agree, it's Russia's fault, ultimately.
They launch a missile barrage at civilian areas all over Ukraine, Ukraine scrambles to defend itself, and a missile lands in Poland. Yeah, that sucks for the Poles, but I can't really say that I can blame Ukraine, or that I'd expect them to do anything different next time.
With how adamant Ukraine is in denying it, some will wonder of they are being blamed to prevent saying Russia attacked a NATO country even if by accident.
Wed Nov 23, 2022 6:18 am
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Kinda jumbled up two time periods, discussung the battle in Mariupol as though it were happening today, mixing up Ukraine's lack of heavy weapons and artillery back then, and the resulting casualties, with the situation now that they have HIMARS and other systems.
Like your new "avatar" pic! Very honest and leaves no doubts where your sympathies are. Red-blue-white "Donetsk's Russ" with imperial eagle, indeed (DPR). Very "non-controversial" for those taking names for the list of "authoritarians" here. Respect. Long live 1A!
_________________ “Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.”
― Ronald ReaganOct. 27, 1964
Wed Nov 23, 2022 2:45 pm
movingviolation
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Pretty sure if Russia hadn't invaded in 2014 those people wouldn't be dead? Civilians get killed in wars.
This one didn't need to happen.
Tell that to Obama who sponsored the Maidan.
How hard is it for you to follow the chain of events?
And the GRU was assassinating Ukrainian politicians Russia didn't like, rigging elections, bribing. Don't pretend Russia hasn't been screwing with Ukraine.
Russia has viewed Ukraine as if it were a vassal state since the beginning.
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