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Author:  TechnoWeenie [ Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:50 pm ]
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What. The. Fuck.

Quote:
Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.


So, explain how you got a warrant for 1,000 safe deposit boxes.

You either have valid info, which points to a box, or you have non-specific info, which isn't enough to get a warrant.

One of the things that caused us to revolt against the British was 'general warrants'....


Author:  Alpine [ Mon Apr 12, 2021 6:39 am ]
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Well said. The founders fought the revolution partly over this.

Author:  Pvanderzee [ Mon Apr 12, 2021 6:52 am ]
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I have to be very careful which of Lehto's videos I watch. The civil asset forfeiture videos just piss me off.

Author:  Caveman Jim [ Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:44 am ]
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With the socialist/communists in power, they can do whatever the Hell they want and they are being protected by bought liberal judges when challenged. :cussing: :cussing: :cussing: :cussing: :cussing:

Author:  TechnoWeenie [ Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:35 am ]
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Pvanderzee wrote:
I have to be very careful which of Lehto's videos I watch. The civil asset forfeiture videos just piss me off.


I'm just waiting for them to do it to the wrong guy.. If it takes them realizing that a dozen of their officers lives are worth the 10K in cash they seize... well... I'd just shrug and say that's what happens to thieves...

Author:  Pvanderzee [ Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:42 pm ]
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TechnoWeenie wrote:
Pvanderzee wrote:
I have to be very careful which of Lehto's videos I watch. The civil asset forfeiture videos just piss me off.


I'm just waiting for them to do it to the wrong guy.. If it takes them realizing that a dozen of their officers lives are worth the 10K in cash they seize... well... I'd just shrug and say that's what happens to thieves...


How it has ever passed constitutional muster is beyond me.
You mean the police can just take some shit because they THINK it's involved with a crime? And keep it? And NEVER press charges against the person they took it from? And you have to SUE THEM to get it back?
How is this NOT a 4th/5th amendment violation?
We'd call that "stealing" if the person doing the taking didn't have a badge.
Murderous. It makes me murderous.
I know that most cops are just dudes doing their job, but I will have a hard time feeling remorse if one of them gets smoked performing one of these thefts.

Author:  TechnoWeenie [ Wed May 12, 2021 12:09 pm ]
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It gets a LOT worse...

The warrant, SPECIFICALLY EXCLUDED the safe deposit boxes, because the warrant was for the business...

So, the FBI intentionally seized the items, even though they were told not to.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjXTV5xmIMk


Author:  AR15L [ Wed May 12, 2021 12:19 pm ]
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When was the last time the FBI did any good deeds?

Author:  Selador [ Wed May 12, 2021 4:31 pm ]
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FBI used to stand for something good.

Now they are just the mafia branch of the gov.

Author:  sportsdad60 [ Wed May 12, 2021 5:01 pm ]
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Selador wrote:
FBI used to stand for something good.

Now they are just the mafia branch of the gov.

This.

Author:  danoh [ Wed May 12, 2021 7:35 pm ]
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Pvanderzee wrote:
You mean the police can just take some shit because they THINK it's involved with a crime? And keep it? And NEVER press charges against the person they took it from? And you have to SUE THEM to get it back?
How is this NOT a 4th/5th amendment violation?
We'd call that "stealing" if the person doing the taking didn't have a badge.

I used to carry alot of cash just to be ready for any deals that may come up about $2,000.00. I don't anymore. Only about $500.00 cash.

Even the local LEO's can seize the cash, for ANY reason. You'll have a helluva time getting a receipt, and getting the cash back.
Just not worth the hassle to me anymore.

Author:  NWGunner [ Wed May 12, 2021 10:18 pm ]
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Not quite sure what’s worse...

The fact they they can pull shit like this off, as well as other things, or the fact that there are no longer any repercussions when mistakes are made, or laws are violated.

‘Til then, they’ll feel they have carte blanche to make ‘mistakes’...

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