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Ashli Babbit's Murderers identity partly exposed
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Site Supporter   Location: Bow Joined: Tue Apr 2, 2013 Posts: 2688 Real Name: Phill 
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TechnoWeenie wrote: Why has no one answered my question? Are you afraid of the answer? Gotta be honest, didn't even see it. Had to go look. For others... TechnoWeenie wrote: You are in your place of employment. You hear that Antifa has run wild, attacking employees, and have taken over the building. You lock yourself and some of your coworkers in a room, where there's an exit, but it takes time to get people out safely. You hear yelling and screaming outside the door, people banging on the door, the window gets broken out, and you see what looks like someone dressed as antifa trying to crawl in through the broken window. Do you shoot? I don't know. Hard to say. If it's one person, and they aren't armed, I would certainly give a moment's pause, if I shoot at all. How are they acting? Are they carrying anything? I suppose it depends on how chaotic the situation actually is. If I've got CHAZ/CHOP outside the door, shooting might save me initially, but might invite the mob inside. If it's a smaller group, I might like the odds better. That's assuming I even know. So, I don't know. But it isn't out of the realm of possibility. If I'm under the impression that people are being attacked, that rioters are inside, and I hear noises that support those thoughts, yeah, shooting is an option. _________________ Sinus211 wrote: Z66 and I still fuck on the regular. zombie66 wrote: Mikey is a Bossy Bottom..... |
| Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:59 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Bow Joined: Tue Apr 2, 2013 Posts: 2688 Real Name: Phill
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Pablo wrote: Pvanderzee wrote: Pablo wrote: If Ashli Babbit was black. Would her being black cancel out her political affiliation and result in a fair application of the law in the investigation? Like a points system? How many points is a MAGA hat worth? Would a BLM sweatshirt outweigh it? It covers more skin. Interesting train of thought. If Ashli was a black conservative.........the narrative would be changed. Not sure how much "traitor to the race" there would be........or much less coverage in general.......... As far as her being killed, not an innocent young black man in the inner city. Take that in a direction. I wasn't being serious. Guess the tone of the thread was a bit too serious for the humor to come through. _________________ Sinus211 wrote: Z66 and I still fuck on the regular. zombie66 wrote: Mikey is a Bossy Bottom..... |
| Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:01 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Pierce County Joined: Wed Nov 14, 2018 Posts: 1992 Real Name: Shane
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SurfPerch wrote: scrid2000 wrote: I'll sign on to Steve's statement. Riots are wrong, regardless of whether it's a riot in Portland or at the capital. Breaking and entering as part of a riot is worse. Sure, thanks for reporting. I don't understand what does "riots" part have to do with killing of Ashli? Are you lamenting that not all of them "rioters" were killed where they stood? TechnoWeenie wrote: Why has no one answered my question? Are you afraid of the answer? This question? TechnoWeenie wrote: You are in your place of employment. You hear that Antifa has run wild, attacking employees, and have taken over the building. You lock yourself and some of your coworkers in a room, where there's an exit, but it takes time to get people out safely. You hear yelling and screaming outside the door, people banging on the door, the window gets broken out, and you see what looks like someone dressed as antifa trying to crawl in through the broken window. Do you shoot? If I was in my office and a group of rioters who seemed intent on doing me harm were ignoring commands to stay back and beginning to gain access to the room before I could escape, I would. I hope to God never to be in such a situation. _________________ Posts not legal advice. |
| Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:05 pm |
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 Location: Wetside Joined: Tue Jul 14, 2020 Posts: 960
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scrid2000 wrote: I think it's pretty obvious I'm not advocating the wholesale slaughter of rioters. Unfortunately, legitimate threats to life might have to be repelled with force. Such situations are thankfully extraordinarily rare, but do happen. What is a "legitimate threat to life" and what "force" do you mean? There're well established elements of "legitimate" "threat to life". And if this is a deadly force - how do you propose to settle the aftermath? Who should be be the judge of the circumstances? Was the claimed "threat to life" real and "legitimate"? Was the force "reasonable"? Somebody could just push Ashli back on her ass while she was trying to get through the door window. Or just kill her. Who'd be the judge? Where's JUSTICE for her and her family? Why would anybody resort to vague generics of "riots", "break ins" - while concrete person, unarmed Ashli Babbitt, is dead from the hand of gov-t agent under concrete circumstances and dismissed, as if noting happened? Is this the country you want to live in? Because if it is, looks like we're all getting your wish then.... _________________ “Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.” ― Ronald Reagan Oct. 27, 1964 |
| Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:36 pm |
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 Location: Seattle Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2018 Posts: 682
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Pvanderzee wrote: Alpine wrote: It wasn't a place of residence. Doesn't matter. See below. Alpine wrote: Are business owners in DC allowed to shot and kill people climbing in through a broken window? If there's a riot outside or a reasonable fear that there's a riot outside? Maybe. Try it in court. The business owner has a right to be where he is. The intruder does not. Also irrelevant. Alpine wrote: The "new rules" that leftist judges are incorporating into law are that if there's a "protest" then everything changes and deadly force can't be applied without a physical attack or direct threat of harm, oops, that's only for liberals. I don't disagree. The law has been applied unevenly. But I'm not going to condemn the officer until the entirety of the case is known. You can send the guy to prison without a trial in your hypothetical if you want. I will stick with a fair trial in mine. You reminded me of LaRue Bratcher, veteran who shot and killed a repeat burglar who was in the act of breaking into his place of business, he's on trial for murder. The circumstances, well, some would say differ, some would say no different. You be the judge... https://theblackwallsttimes.com/2021/05 ... is-ground/ |
| Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:59 pm |
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Location: Wetside Joined: Tue Jul 14, 2020 Posts: 960
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Tod wrote: You reminded me of LaRue Bratcher, veteran who shot and killed a repeat burglar who was in the act of breaking into his place of business, he's on trial for murder. The circumstances, well, some would say differ, some would say no different. You be the judge... https://theblackwallsttimes.com/2021/05 ... is-ground/ Interesting technicality (expired business license) for "stand your ground" application - but irrelevant to the topic of the thread. Unlike OK, DC doesn't have "stand your ground laws" nor a "castle doctrine" _________________ “Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.” ― Ronald Reagan Oct. 27, 1964 |
| Tue Jul 27, 2021 12:31 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Lake Stevens Joined: Fri Jan 3, 2014 Posts: 6215 Real Name: Paris
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Some very good questions to ask...
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/07/epic-newsmax-host-greg-kelly-offers-5-questions-ashli-babbitts-heartless-killer-lt-mike-byrd-video/ Quote: 1.) Ashli Babbitt was unarmed. Did you know that? If you didn’t know that what made you think she was armed? 2.) Did you verbally order her to stop? Did you use any customary words such as “Freeze”, ‘halt”, “go back”, or “stop”? 3.) Police guidelines and law dictates that deadly force not be used unless there is an imminent risk of death to the officer or someone else. What deadly threat did you perceive? Please explain especially as she was unarmed and not within reach of a Capitol Hill police officer or a member of Congress. 4.) Do you have any awareness of the presence of the BLM activist John Sullivan who was recording your shooting of Ashli Babbitt? 5.) What were your personal political views of President Trump, Trump supporters? If negative as has been suggested could that have had any bearing on your decision to shoot? NOTE the video at the end if pretty good as well! Taken from Rumble and a snippet from the whole show on Newsmax. _________________ Paris You can never be too prepared. Consider the ant thou sluggard. Proverbs 27:12 -- “A prudent person foresees the danger ahead and takes precautions. The simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences.” Need Long term Food or Survival Supplies, I have extras, Grab the Supplies_Available.pdf. Prices Quoted are close to my actual cost: https://backupcomputing.workplace.datto.com/filelink/6af06-883bf7e-31d469c0e1-2 Link corrected 1/30/2021. The prudent Wagunner trains and prepares to defend themselves and their families, friends, and neighbors. They also are prepared to feed, shelter, and provide aid as well. Danger is coming and may already be here, how prepared are you? Click the link above for lots of good info to get started. |
| Tue Jul 27, 2021 7:41 pm |
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Location: Wetside Joined: Tue Jul 14, 2020 Posts: 960
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https://usbacklash.org/arrest-capitol-p ... i-babbitt/
 Is his finger always on the trigger? (Aside from the bathroom where it is in his ass while he leaves the gun for others to play with?) _________________ “Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.” ― Ronald Reagan Oct. 27, 1964 |
| Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:12 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Eatonville Joined: Mon Sep 14, 2020 Posts: 621 Real Name: Marcus
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I have no dog in this fight but just a thought that crossed my mind with that picture, what is he holding in his left arm? What was in the room that needed to be gotten out so it didn't fall into others hands? Finger on the trigger, tisk tisk bet he flagged a few people in that picture. Plausible plot twist, was his killing of ashli the needed diversion to get that item out while everyone was concerned with body's hitting the floor? Just a thought. Ok tinfoil hat back off
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Site Supporter  Location: Nova Laboratories Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2011 Posts: 18469 Real Name: Johnny 5
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Norman89 wrote: what is he holding in his left arm? Escape hood. It's basically a clear bubble that inflates over the head with a built in fan and filter.The positive air pressure keeps out contaminants so you don't need a seal like a gas mask. They're usually only good for 10 mins or so, but some go for 30ish minutes. Attachment: download.jpg You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post. _________________ NO DISASSEMBLE! Thomas Paine wrote: "He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself." Last edited by TechnoWeenie on Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:55 pm, edited 1 time in total. |
| Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:39 pm |
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Location: Wetside Joined: Tue Jul 14, 2020 Posts: 960
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Norman89 wrote: Finger on the trigger, tisk tisk bet he flagged a few people in that picture... He sure did... Including probably this murderer-hugging RINO congressmen Markwayne Mullin from OK in the lower left... (see earlier in a thread. WTF is he doing there? Wasn't he supposed to tuck his tail and run to safety long time before barricades went up? Cheerleading to kill?) Affirmative action promotion perhaps... Skills is a white privilege I am taught in my re-education camp.  Was wondering myself what it was. By the time he was hiding to ambush Ashli with the finger on a trigger the package was already gone somewhere... _________________ “Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.” ― Ronald Reagan Oct. 27, 1964 Last edited by SurfPerch on Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:33 am, edited 1 time in total. |
| Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:55 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Lynnwood and at large Joined: Wed May 1, 2013 Posts: 21284 Real Name: Vick Lagina
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_________________ “Finding ‘common ground’ with the thinking of evil men is a fool’s errand” ~ Herschel Smith "The “A return to First Principles in a Republic is sometimes caused by simple virtues of a single man. His good example has such an influence that the good men strive to imitate him, and the wicked are ashamed to lead a life so contrary to his example. Before all else, be armed!” ~ Niccolo Machiavelli Láodòng zhèng zhūwèi zìyóu FJB |
| Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:01 pm |
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Location: Wetside Joined: Tue Jul 14, 2020 Posts: 960
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... ar-AAMGeKO
GOP senator clashes with radio caller who wants identity of cop who shot Babbitt  Quote: "The person that shot her is a police officer shooting a criminal not complying with officers telling her, 'Stop. Don't come through that window. We have guns drawn. Don't do it.' They're protecting people, and the officer was found to be innocent of any wrongdoing," Cramer told the caller. "So then what would be the purpose of releasing that officer's name? What do you need to know the officer's name for?" "Well, because we know everybody else's name if a police officer shoots a citizen of this country. I mean, crying out loud, if you shoot an illegal alien, we're going to know that police officer's name," the caller argued. "This is a police officer that shot someone in our Capitol, and his name is being withheld." Cramer added that the officer isn't a suspect and that "he's been found not guilty of any wrongdoing." "It seems to be kind of a textbook situation, frankly. I'm the one who personally does not think there is a right to know the name of every police officer who shoots a criminal or perpetrator, unless of course, there are charges brought or an indictment brought, or something like that. I'll look into it to see what the law says about the release of the name. I'm just grateful for this person, quite honestly," Cramer said. What's wrong with these people? And they call themselves LAWMAKERS? So by this logic everybody can be shot by police for anything? For perceived non-compliance? (Not a single video of shooting had any police commands on audio before shot. It could be noisy - but again how can you be sure your command was heard?) For any unestablished by court "crime" - on a whim, or a twitchy finger they keep on a Glock trigger? Why bother with arrest when you can just kill an unarmed "perpetrator" of smth.? And if gov-t refused to charge their own hitman the victim's relatives cannot even bring their own lawsuit against the murderer because they do not release his name? WTF? Is there any shred of decency, morale, due process left in this country? Disgusting... The deafening silence on high-profile Ashli's murder is the best proof that BLM shitshow was just a brownshirt pre-election domestic terror campaign of intimidation of majority of the country (who just conveniently happened to be whites) Ashli is the ONLY political protester/rioter killed by police since BLM looting started. Also - happened to be white. As the most of "insurrectionists" rotting in jail w/o trial or bail for 7 mo already. The same target audience - the majority. Mic drop after burning and looting - Learn your f***ing lesson! That's how majoritarian "democracy" now works. Keep the meek "law-abiding" majority sheeple scared and on the run - and you rule the country forever. That's how Soviets had their elections. That's also how a lot of "democracies" went to hell in banana republics. Today it's not about "race" at all for this country's rich (and mostly white) puppet masters - it's all about control of majority. Neither police nor "republicans" (to say nothing of dem asylum dwellers) are Constitution and liberty defenders. All are just tools of global oligarchy playing their roles in turning this country into China's playground... Venezuela has no less "democracy" than USA. _________________ “Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.” ― Ronald Reagan Oct. 27, 1964 |
| Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:46 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Lynnwood and at large Joined: Wed May 1, 2013 Posts: 21284 Real Name: Vick Lagina
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The double standard of reaction to the riots spawned by the different "factions" exposes the cabal and is not unnoticed.
Major Cities Chiefs (an organization supporting LE) released a report indicating the disparity if reactions (to BLM/ANTIFA riots vs the 1/6 demonstration) https://thefederalist.com/2021/07/29/re ... 2021-07-29 Now here’s a prime example of dissimilar treatment for far worse actions. The January 6 riot involved no guns or fires among protesters, only makeshift weapons like flag poles, batons, and objects from the area. "In contrast, the 2020 riots involved guns, incendiary devices, lasers, paint bombs, and fireworks that were used to torch buildings and cars, hurt police officers, and destroy meaningful parts of many U.S. cities. Despite the far greater violence and destruction the 2020 rioters perpetrated, the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) and Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) haven’t hunted those rioters down with anywhere near the vigor and vim used against what are in many cases at most trespassers." _________________ “Finding ‘common ground’ with the thinking of evil men is a fool’s errand” ~ Herschel Smith "The “A return to First Principles in a Republic is sometimes caused by simple virtues of a single man. His good example has such an influence that the good men strive to imitate him, and the wicked are ashamed to lead a life so contrary to his example. Before all else, be armed!” ~ Niccolo Machiavelli Láodòng zhèng zhūwèi zìyóu FJB |
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Site Admin   Location: Renton, WA Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 Posts: 52064 Real Name: Steve
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^ Good to see. Hopefully that gets some attention!
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