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NO $30 TABS! Because of Bob Ferguson
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reginald_burrito
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Location: Not Seattle Joined: Wed Nov 2, 2016 Posts: 698
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Kgbsucka wrote: It obviously costs more than $1 to run that route of 40 miles one way. Why should the rest of us subsidize someone who chooses to live in BFE without transportation?? That just defies logic. If you don't want to be car dependent then go live in the city or GASP use an uber, or taxi.
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Doing what's good for one person while screwing millions is not ethical. These two statements are contradictory. Living in the city and/or using ubers or taxis is very expensive compared to mass transit. How is that driver who needs the paycheck and insurance supposed to afford moving into the city? Don't you think the riders on that line would choose a shorter commute if they could afford it? Who is being more subsidized by tax dollars more: the driver, or the riders? And, does it matter? I also want to note that once a public transit route is in operation, the cost of the route decreases with each additional user.
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Sat Mar 28, 2020 12:30 pm |
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WaJim
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reginald_burrito wrote: Kgbsucka wrote: It obviously costs more than $1 to run that route of 40 miles one way. Why should the rest of us subsidize someone who chooses to live in BFE without transportation?? That just defies logic. If you don't want to be car dependent then go live in the city or GASP use an uber, or taxi.
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Doing what's good for one person while screwing millions is not ethical. I also want to note that once a public transit route is in operation, the cost of the route decreases with each additional user. Great point! I would also add that in a community where everything changes, EG Building appartments, community centers etc..... a transit system that uses BUSES can change routes easily and cheaply. FUCK A BUNCH OF FUCKING TRAINS!!!!!!!!!!!!
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People in poor health should not have jobs driving other people around.
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Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:11 pm |
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shaggy
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So $30 tabs is enough to crash the public transit system??? Dont they collect enough tax off gas already? There are places in the country where gas is $1.10 a gallon
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Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:51 pm |
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Kgbsucka
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reginald_burrito wrote: Kgbsucka wrote: It obviously costs more than $1 to run that route of 40 miles one way. Why should the rest of us subsidize someone who chooses to live in BFE without transportation?? That just defies logic. If you don't want to be car dependent then go live in the city or GASP use an uber, or taxi.
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Doing what's good for one person while screwing millions is not ethical. These two statements are contradictory. Living in the city and/or using ubers or taxis is very expensive compared to mass transit. How is that driver who needs the paycheck and insurance supposed to afford moving into the city? Don't you think the riders on that line would choose a shorter commute if they could afford it? Who is being more subsidized by tax dollars more: the driver, or the riders? And, does it matter? I also want to note that once a public transit route is in operation, the cost of the route decreases with each additional user. Mass transit is only effective in densely populated areas. Expecting to pay $1 to get a 40 mile ride is not realistic, no matter how many people are on the bus. It works great in cities like New York where you don't need a car. It's not so great here, because we have too much urban sprawl and you still have to travel relatively far after your bus or train ride, and most people drive to the train for example. We are a pretty car dependent area for the most part. City living does not have to be expensive, and no, not everyone wants to do it. Not every city is a Seattle. It's all about choices, we choose where to live and how much to spend on a housein a certain area with a certain cost of living. I run into people all the time who move to Gray's Harbor because it is cheaper. The problem is that they don't do their research and find out quickly that many things are more expensive there - such as Medicare plans. Add frequent trips to Olympia to see docs and you're often not saving much at the end of the day (I'm talking about a low income person, usually on SS as their only income) There are areas in or near Olympia that have relatively low cost of living and are not 40 miles from services. Expecting transit to shuttle you from Aberdeen to Olympia for $1 is essentially the same trip, and again, unrealistic.
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Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:55 pm |
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Scott
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Tyranny, at its best. Fuck him
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Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:58 pm |
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mustangfreek
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RENCORP
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" Recall Robber Bob Ferguson "
Has a nice ring to it, doesn't it ?
Time for a ballot initiative.
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Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:52 pm |
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Massivedesign
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Currently all public facing DOL counters are closed anyhow. So even if I wanted to renew, I can't. Many LEA's are not even bothering with these at the moment. They may use it as an excuse to pull you over, but don't expect a ticket.
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Sun Mar 29, 2020 6:38 am |
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Guns4Liberty
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My truck tabs expire a week from today. I can't renew in person and attempt to pay $30 instead of the $152.50 they want to charge me online, and I can't change the amount I am required to pay online, so guess who is going to have expired tabs next week?
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Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:34 pm |
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TechnoWeenie
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tako wrote: Quote: None of us will be getting $30 tabs. It was supposed to happen today. It didn’t.
Why? Because of Bob Ferguson.
If he had filed his response on Wednesday like attorney Stephen Pidgeon did, it would have taken an action by the supreme court to extend the injunction.
And they would’ve had to issue their ruling by 9 am Friday. Believe it or not, there is a bigger reason than feeding the Heavy Taxation Proponents. There are many people who rely on public transportation from city to city that would be left without. For instance, you can take a van from Longview to Woodland to Vancouver for $1 (Take plenty of disinfectant wipes) paid for in part by the vehicle fees. This would be wiped out. I happen to know a 63 yr old driver (in poor health who needs the paycheck and insurance) who almost lost his job over this. There are a lot of remote areas in the state relying on these kinds of transport systems that would have lost them. The gov't isn't an employment plan.
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Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:57 pm |
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TechnoWeenie
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I'm just waiting for all the people, knowing the 4 boxes of liberty, going to claim 'but, we still have the courts'....
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hartcreek
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YOu guys and your new vehicles.....I just transfered my last vehicle to a CV plate but my parents have three vehicles that they are getting screwed over on. Just to not comply anf fill out your ballots. It would be nice to make this Bob Fergison purposly not filing in time exposed but how? The social meidia sites are mostlyt controlled by socialists so I do not see it getting much play simply because the posts will be deleted in like 30 seconds. Now if someone with some tact were to right this up and to forward it to say several dozen of us and we each posted it then it might get through.
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Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:02 pm |
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Guns4Liberty
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TechnoWeenie wrote: I'm just waiting for all the people, knowing the 4 boxes of liberty, going to claim 'but, we still have the courts'.... Yeah, the courts are just another head of the same snake.
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Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:43 pm |
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RocketScott
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Guns4Liberty wrote: TechnoWeenie wrote: I'm just waiting for all the people, knowing the 4 boxes of liberty, going to claim 'but, we still have the courts'.... Yeah, the courts are just another head of the same snake. Yup, I'm not expecting much. Judges don't care to argue facts, they've got a docket to get through My court date isn't till September so we'll see Been wondering how much power they really have. If I move out of state and get a new license is there really anything that they can do to me at that point?
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