Gee... some folks have been talking about vascular inflammation and damage from the spike proteins for quite a while now...hmmmm.
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I'd like to see real numbers, not cherry picked numbers or numbers pulled out someone's ass... Comparing the number of people who have gotten the disease, recovered fully, then got it again... To the number of those who have gotten "fully vaccinated", and gone on to get the disease...
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Fri Jun 11, 2021 7:31 pm
RocketScott
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I'd like to see real numbers, not cherry picked numbers or numbers pulled out someone's ass... Comparing the number of people who have gotten the disease, recovered fully, then got it again... To the number of those who have gotten "fully vaccinated", and gone on to get the disease...
That's not really possible
All the numbers are suspect. The threshold for a positive test is low
My wife tested positive after getting the first dose, neither of us had symptoms. But we were told that the vaccine won't yield a positive result. So I guess she was positive, and it's so transmissible that I should be considered positive too
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Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:18 pm
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I'd like to see real numbers, not cherry picked numbers or numbers pulled out someone's ass... Comparing the number of people who have gotten the disease, recovered fully, then got it again... To the number of those who have gotten "fully vaccinated", and gone on to get the disease...
That's not really possible
All the numbers are suspect. The threshold for a positive test is low
My wife tested positive after getting the first dose, neither of us had symptoms. But we were told that the vaccine won't yield a positive result. So I guess she was positive, and it's so transmissible that I should be considered positive too
I agree it is impossible, at this point, to get any accurate numbers. Coworker of mine had a lab test due to a personal scare, but also wanted to get back to work ASAP, so had a rapid test done as well. The rapid test came back as a maybe (think pregnancy test, faint, maybe, not sure), but had to be reported as a positive. The lab test came back negative. County health department kept calling “suggesting” my coworker self quarantine. They were very nasty about it and I am certain it is recorded as a positive statistic.
My experience is that bean counters and bureaucrats rarely understand the reality of a given situation where the rubber meets the road. They are so used to looking at spread sheets.
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Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:33 pm
RocketScott
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I agree it is impossible, at this point, to get any accurate numbers. Coworker of mine had a lab test due to a personal scare, but also wanted to get back to work ASAP, so had a rapid test done as well. The rapid test came back as a maybe (think pregnancy test, faint, maybe, not sure), but had to be reported as a positive. The lab test came back negative. County health department kept calling “suggesting” my coworker self quarantine. They were very nasty about it and I am certain it is recorded as a positive statistic.
My experience is that bean counters and bureaucrats rarely understand the reality of a given situation where the rubber meets the road. They are so used to looking at spread sheets.
My wife managed a nursing home and didn't allow rapid testing. The rate of false positives was too high
Normally that wouldn't be that big of an issue but like you said, positive is positive. One positive test and the entire facility goes into lock down. Huge consequences that can't be retracted if it's later shown to be false
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Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:00 pm
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I have been tested a dozen times now. For travel, required prior to Doctor's Appointments and twice because i was sick. One of the tests was after being fully Vaccinated. None of them came back positive. I don't know what numbers people are suggesting for false positives, but with a dozen tests and no positives it must be pretty low.
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