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Sat Aug 17 Portland Rallies Proud Boys versus Antifa
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TechnoWeenie
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Location: Nova Laboratories Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2011 Posts: 18454
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jackass wrote: TechnoWeenie wrote: Last I checked, pepper spray was a weapon, and its use as an offensive weapon is justification for lethal force.... Not if you are protected inside a bus, deadly force would not be justified. Now if people started entering the bus, that would be another matter. Antifa had the ability, the opportunity, but their lives were not in immediate jeopardy. try pepper spraying a cop after kicking in the window in their car... lemme know how that works out for you.... also a reminder that under state law, citizens have greater allowance to use lethal force than the police do.. if a cop can shoot someone and have it be self defense, then so can Joe Blow.
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danoh
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Looks like someone inside the patriot bus lost a hammer, and it was used against the bus.
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jackass
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TechnoWeenie wrote: jackass wrote: TechnoWeenie wrote: Last I checked, pepper spray was a weapon, and its use as an offensive weapon is justification for lethal force.... Not if you are protected inside a bus, deadly force would not be justified. Now if people started entering the bus, that would be another matter. Antifa had the ability, the opportunity, but their lives were not in immediate jeopardy. try pepper spraying a cop after kicking in the window in their car... lemme know how that works out for you.... also a reminder that under state law, citizens have greater allowance to use lethal force than the police do.. if a cop can shoot someone and have it be self defense, then so can Joe Blow. We're not talking about police inside their patrol cars. We're talking about us, and justified use of lethal force. If you satisfy the jeopardy-ability-opportunity criteria then you *might* have a case for lethal force. But I would not shoot someone that fires pepper spray at me in a bus. I probably would not do it if my car was still protecting me (and the pistol would pop my eardrums for a long time). Remember, every round you send downrange has a lawyer attached. Draw and shoot wisely. Understand the legal criteria beforehand, avoid problems, and know when you are justified, because that decision will affect you the rest of your life.
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Selador
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sportsdad60 wrote: I was busy, um, hot tubbing with wife last night. Give me the readers digest (thats what she said) Who won? Both sides showed up. Proud boys walked in a big circle, and left. They incited no violence. They created no violence. Antifa followed them, inciting violence but not getting the response they wanted. They followed until the cops intervened and sent them in different directions. The proud boys got back in their vehicles and left. Antifa just kept roaming around. Inciting and creating violence against the police, and against innocent bystanders. Proud boys won, in the public image. If antifa keeps this up, they will win 2020 FOR trump, all by themselves. And Trump doesn't have to pay a penny for it...
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TechnoWeenie
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Attachment: ECMY4xtUYAEutdR.jpg Looks like they have some mobile units now..
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zombie66
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The new face of the left
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Massivedesign
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Only one of those dudes actually looks like he’s ready for boogaloo.
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Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:49 pm |
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sportsdad60
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TechnoWeenie wrote: Attachment: ECMY4xtUYAEutdR.jpg Looks like they have some mobile units now.. We used to joke "I'll take anything I can get, blind, cripple or crazy!".
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Chains
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They have Tanks now too.
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usrifle
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Chains wrote: They have Tanks now too. Yeah, with that Mask Nobody will recognize him...except the Local employee's of Mcdonald's, Burger King, Wendy's, Pizza Hut, Little Ceaser's, etc.
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Chains
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Massivedesign wrote: Only one of those dudes actually looks like he’s ready for boogaloo. I give up. Where’s Waldo?
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zombie66
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Chains wrote: They have Tanks now too. Did Hannibal Lector eat himself? Hello Clarice..... Fuck your gonna need an appliance dolley to move Fat Bastard around.
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olydemon
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Massivedesign wrote: Only one of those dudes actually looks like he’s ready for boogaloo. He may have been ready for boogaloo with the proud boys, but not the police. One of the videos on that twitter feed showed him face down in the street getting arrested.
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Massivedesign
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olydemon wrote: Massivedesign wrote: Only one of those dudes actually looks like he’s ready for boogaloo. He may have been ready for boogaloo with the proud boys, but not the police. One of the videos on that twitter feed showed him face down in the street getting arrested. Excellent
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Eagle Chaplain
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olydemon wrote: Massivedesign wrote: Only one of those dudes actually looks like he’s ready for boogaloo. He may have been ready for boogaloo with the proud boys, but not the police. One of the videos on that twitter feed showed him face down in the street getting arrested. How many handcuffs did they need to use.
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