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Site Supporter   Location: Lynnwood Joined: Sat Nov 28, 2020 Posts: 789 
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So when is Q revealing the plan
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Location: King County Joined: Thu Feb 3, 2022 Posts: 697 Real Name: Russ
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321 tanks is a lot of tanks. I think Russia is in trouble. Europe is actually starting to step up.
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Site Admin   Location: Renton, WA Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 Posts: 52036 Real Name: Steve
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JohnMBrowning wrote: I'm amazed that people are actually trying to state/support/infer that Putin is unhinged and willing to 'take over the world with nukes'...... I don't think the "Putin will use nukes" argument is being used by those who want to defend Ukraine. It's being used by those who are afraid to "poke the bear." Guns4Liberty wrote: To those who are inclined to believe that the US must continue to back Ukraine at all cost, because it purportedly protects our strategic interests, let me ask a couple of questions: 1) Where did that narrative come from, and who is pushing it? 2) Do the same people who developed and are pushing that narrative have a good track record on other narratives? - Have they been telling us the truth about COVID? - Have they been telling us the truth about the global war on terror? - Have they been telling us the truth about illegal immigration and the state of the southern US border? - Have they been telling us the truth about crime rates in America? - Have they been telling us the truth about firearm policy? - Have they been telling us the truth about government spending and the federal deficit / national debt? - Have they been telling us the truth about [insert the topic du jour]? Step back and honestly ask yourself if you've been duped by their lies on other topics before, and then consider that maybe - just maybe - there's more you don't realize you're being lied to about. Chances are that the mainstream narrative on Ukraine is cut from the same bovine excrement cloth as the other mainstream narratives. Believe it or not, it's possible to believe that leaders of both Russia AND the United States are corrupt. G4L, you have fallen into the trap of "the Democrats and the Republics need to disagree on every issue." Also known as, "I'm a Republican, so therefore I'm required to believe [xxx]." The Democrats are lying pieces of shit, no argument there. My thoughts on Ukraine and Russia have nothing to do with the Democrats. You know how we gun folks like to use the Nazis for our arguments against gun control? "That's how the Nazis started, they took away everyone's guns." Well, I see Ukraine in a similar light. "That's how the Nazis started, they rolled tanks into Poland." I don't believe that Russia is a benevolent force, just there to liberate their cousins who are being oppressed by a horrible Ukrainian regime. I think they are there to conquer Ukraine, and try to regain some of their former USSR glory. If Ukraine isn't worth fighting for, how about Romania? Poland? Germany? England? Canada? How close do we let them get, and how much of the world do we allow to become USSR 2.0, before we decide it's worth fighting for? _________________ Steve Benefactor Life Member, National Rifle Association Life Member, Second Amendment Foundation Patriot & Life Member, Gun Owners of America Life Member, Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms Legal Action Supporter, Firearms Policy Coalition Member, NAGR/NFGR Please support the organizations that support all of us. Leave it cleaner than you found it. |
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Site Supporter  Location: NE WA Joined: Tue Oct 18, 2011 Posts: 5487 Real Name: The Dude
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Oh, they speak your language, therefore you need to annex and/or invade that territory? And you'll just stop there at the well-defined line where the language changes, right?
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| Sat Jan 28, 2023 7:56 am |
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MadPick wrote: JohnMBrowning wrote: I'm amazed that people are actually trying to state/support/infer that Putin is unhinged and willing to 'take over the world with nukes'...... I don't think the "Putin will use nukes" argument is being used by those who want to defend Ukraine. It's being used by those who are afraid to "poke the bear." Guns4Liberty wrote: To those who are inclined to believe that the US must continue to back Ukraine at all cost, because it purportedly protects our strategic interests, let me ask a couple of questions: 1) Where did that narrative come from, and who is pushing it? 2) Do the same people who developed and are pushing that narrative have a good track record on other narratives? - Have they been telling us the truth about COVID? - Have they been telling us the truth about the global war on terror? - Have they been telling us the truth about illegal immigration and the state of the southern US border? - Have they been telling us the truth about crime rates in America? - Have they been telling us the truth about firearm policy? - Have they been telling us the truth about government spending and the federal deficit / national debt? - Have they been telling us the truth about [insert the topic du jour]? Step back and honestly ask yourself if you've been duped by their lies on other topics before, and then consider that maybe - just maybe - there's more you don't realize you're being lied to about. Chances are that the mainstream narrative on Ukraine is cut from the same bovine excrement cloth as the other mainstream narratives. Believe it or not, it's possible to believe that leaders of both Russia AND the United States are corrupt. G4L, you have fallen into the trap of "the Democrats and the Republics need to disagree on every issue." Also known as, "I'm a Republican, so therefore I'm required to believe [xxx]." The Democrats are lying pieces of shit, no argument there. My thoughts on Ukraine and Russia have nothing to do with the Democrats. You know how we gun folks like to use the Nazis for our arguments against gun control? "That's how the Nazis started, they took away everyone's guns." Well, I see Ukraine in a similar light. "That's how the Nazis started, they rolled tanks into Poland." I don't believe that Russia is a benevolent force, just there to liberate their cousins who are being oppressed by a horrible Ukrainian regime. I think they are there to conquer Ukraine, and try to regain some of their former USSR glory. If Ukraine isn't worth fighting for, how about Romania? Poland? Germany? England? Canada? How close do we let them get, and how much of the world do we allow to become USSR 2.0, before we decide it's worth fighting for? You left out Afghanistan and Tibet. Why? China killed way more people than the USSR ever did and is exponentially worse. Libs would look at the list you wrote and point out you listed all primarily ethnically Caucasian countries, now come brown/yellow people don't make the cut? Of course I don't think your a lib but I am still amazed we're fighting a war primarily at the agitation of liberals and given the racial disparity in who they help vs who they don't that contradicts 99% of their ideology it seems crazy. Also, no thoughts on the emails in Hunter's laptop that now connect to classified docs on Ukraine that daddy gave him illegally in 2014? _________________ If you vote for Biden you are voting to be murdered when he sends Beto to come take your "semi automatic assault weapon" (any semi auto). If you have family or friends voting for Biden show them this and ask if they are willing to vote for your murder or maybe even their own if they are gun owners or live with any. https://nypost.com/2020/03/03/joe-biden ... n-control/ Quote: “I want to make something clear, I’m going to guarantee you this is not the last you’ve seen of him (Beto),” Biden said Monday evening during a campaign rally in Dallas. “You’re (Beto) going to take care of the gun problem with me. You’re (Beto) going to be the one who leads this effort.” https://www.newsweek.com/beto-orourke-g ... ns-1465738 Quote: [Beto O'Rourke Suggests Police Would 'Visit' Homes To Implement Proposed Assault Weapons Ban] "In that case, I think that there would be a visit by law enforcement to recover that firearm... ..."If someone does not turn in an AR-15 or an AK-47, one of these weapons of war...then that weapon will be taken from them" |
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Site Admin Location: Renton, WA Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 Posts: 52036 Real Name: Steve
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Alpine wrote: Also, no thoughts on the emails in Hunter's laptop that now connect to classified docs on Ukraine that daddy gave him illegally in 2014? What are you looking for here? Hunter and Joe should probably both be in jail. I'm on your side on that topic. My thoughts on Ukraine/Russia have absolutely nothing to do with the Bidens. _________________ Steve Benefactor Life Member, National Rifle Association Life Member, Second Amendment Foundation Patriot & Life Member, Gun Owners of America Life Member, Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms Legal Action Supporter, Firearms Policy Coalition Member, NAGR/NFGR Please support the organizations that support all of us. Leave it cleaner than you found it. |
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Site Supporter  Location: Lynnwood and at large Joined: Wed May 1, 2013 Posts: 21268 Real Name: Vick Lagina
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MadPick wrote: Alpine wrote: Also, no thoughts on the emails in Hunter's laptop that now connect to classified docs on Ukraine that daddy gave him illegally in 2014? What are you looking for here? Hunter and Joe should probably both be in jail. I'm on your side on that topic. My thoughts on Ukraine/Russia have absolutely nothing to do with the Bidens. Well, no. They and other actors in his and Obama's admin have been driving events there even to include the color revolution. They have everything to do with it, and profiting from it. _________________ “Finding ‘common ground’ with the thinking of evil men is a fool’s errand” ~ Herschel Smith "The “A return to First Principles in a Republic is sometimes caused by simple virtues of a single man. His good example has such an influence that the good men strive to imitate him, and the wicked are ashamed to lead a life so contrary to his example. Before all else, be armed!” ~ Niccolo Machiavelli Láodòng zhèng zhūwèi zìyóu FJB Last edited by jukk0u on Sat Jan 28, 2023 9:01 am, edited 1 time in total. |
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Site Supporter Joined: Sat Aug 11, 2012 Posts: 7649
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MadPick wrote: Alpine wrote: Also, no thoughts on the emails in Hunter's laptop that now connect to classified docs on Ukraine that daddy gave him illegally in 2014? What are you looking for here? Hunter and Joe should probably both be in jail. I'm on your side on that topic. My thoughts on Ukraine/Russia have absolutely nothing to do with the Bidens. Except that were involved with destroying our currency for Ukraine because of the Dems... as opposed to Afghanistan, Tibet, etc. _________________ If you vote for Biden you are voting to be murdered when he sends Beto to come take your "semi automatic assault weapon" (any semi auto). If you have family or friends voting for Biden show them this and ask if they are willing to vote for your murder or maybe even their own if they are gun owners or live with any. https://nypost.com/2020/03/03/joe-biden ... n-control/ Quote: “I want to make something clear, I’m going to guarantee you this is not the last you’ve seen of him (Beto),” Biden said Monday evening during a campaign rally in Dallas. “You’re (Beto) going to take care of the gun problem with me. You’re (Beto) going to be the one who leads this effort.” https://www.newsweek.com/beto-orourke-g ... ns-1465738 Quote: [Beto O'Rourke Suggests Police Would 'Visit' Homes To Implement Proposed Assault Weapons Ban] "In that case, I think that there would be a visit by law enforcement to recover that firearm... ..."If someone does not turn in an AR-15 or an AK-47, one of these weapons of war...then that weapon will be taken from them" |
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Site Supporter Location: NE WA Joined: Tue Oct 18, 2011 Posts: 5487 Real Name: The Dude
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Guys, it's possible to follow the right cause for the wrong reasons.
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| Sat Jan 28, 2023 9:04 am |
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Not with the wrong people in charge. What happened to auditing the money sent? Oh that's right, calls for that dried up when the sports cars and yacht photos started getting posted.
Let's not be suckers, and worse, let's not be suckers to be used getting into WW3. Double fucked. _________________ If you vote for Biden you are voting to be murdered when he sends Beto to come take your "semi automatic assault weapon" (any semi auto). If you have family or friends voting for Biden show them this and ask if they are willing to vote for your murder or maybe even their own if they are gun owners or live with any. https://nypost.com/2020/03/03/joe-biden ... n-control/ Quote: “I want to make something clear, I’m going to guarantee you this is not the last you’ve seen of him (Beto),” Biden said Monday evening during a campaign rally in Dallas. “You’re (Beto) going to take care of the gun problem with me. You’re (Beto) going to be the one who leads this effort.” https://www.newsweek.com/beto-orourke-g ... ns-1465738 Quote: [Beto O'Rourke Suggests Police Would 'Visit' Homes To Implement Proposed Assault Weapons Ban] "In that case, I think that there would be a visit by law enforcement to recover that firearm... ..."If someone does not turn in an AR-15 or an AK-47, one of these weapons of war...then that weapon will be taken from them" |
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 Site Supporter  Location: Lynnwood/Bothell Joined: Thu Jul 31, 2014 Posts: 8562 Real Name: Curtis
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MadPick wrote: JohnMBrowning wrote: I'm amazed that people are actually trying to state/support/infer that Putin is unhinged and willing to 'take over the world with nukes'...... I don't think the "Putin will use nukes" argument is being used by those who want to defend Ukraine. It's being used by those who are afraid to "poke the bear." Guns4Liberty wrote: To those who are inclined to believe that the US must continue to back Ukraine at all cost, because it purportedly protects our strategic interests, let me ask a couple of questions: 1) Where did that narrative come from, and who is pushing it? 2) Do the same people who developed and are pushing that narrative have a good track record on other narratives? - Have they been telling us the truth about COVID? - Have they been telling us the truth about the global war on terror? - Have they been telling us the truth about illegal immigration and the state of the southern US border? - Have they been telling us the truth about crime rates in America? - Have they been telling us the truth about firearm policy? - Have they been telling us the truth about government spending and the federal deficit / national debt? - Have they been telling us the truth about [insert the topic du jour]? Step back and honestly ask yourself if you've been duped by their lies on other topics before, and then consider that maybe - just maybe - there's more you don't realize you're being lied to about. Chances are that the mainstream narrative on Ukraine is cut from the same bovine excrement cloth as the other mainstream narratives. Believe it or not, it's possible to believe that leaders of both Russia AND the United States are corrupt. G4L, you have fallen into the trap of "the Democrats and the Republics need to disagree on every issue." Also known as, "I'm a Republican, so therefore I'm required to believe [xxx]." The Democrats are lying pieces of shit, no argument there. My thoughts on Ukraine and Russia have nothing to do with the Democrats. Actually, Steve, the fact that Republicans and Democrats alike are aligned on this issue is what concerns me the most. When the two parties focus their energy and power together, they can get a lot done. The problem is, they both lie to further their own agendas, one of which is to enrich themselves at the expense of the taxpayers. And I don't doubt for a second that there are some seriously corrupt Republicans who are backing the mainstream narrative on Ukraine for their own selfish reasons. So I'm not approaching this as a Democrat vs Republican issue, but rather as a government vs citizenry issue. I don't trust the federal government to tell us the truth on virtually ANYTHING anymore; they have betrayed that trust far too many times. I think this Ukraine situation is also a tangled web of lies, to cover up scandals and corruption. Keep your eyes wide open on this one. MadPick wrote: You know how we gun folks like to use the Nazis for our arguments against gun control? "That's how the Nazis started, they took away everyone's guns." Well, I see Ukraine in a similar light. "That's how the Nazis started, they rolled tanks into Poland." I don't believe that Russia is a benevolent force, just there to liberate their cousins who are being oppressed by a horrible Ukrainian regime. I think they are there to conquer Ukraine, and try to regain some of their former USSR glory. If Ukraine isn't worth fighting for, how about Romania? Poland? Germany? England? Canada? How close do we let them get, and how much of the world do we allow to become USSR 2.0, before we decide it's worth fighting for? Why does the US have to be the one to step in and spend our blood and treasure? If this was happening on our continent, maybe I'd agree, but it's not. Let the European NATO countries step up more - I'm done being their military sugar daddy. |
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Ukraine is corrupt cesspool unworthy of all our $$$$$$ and protection.....
Has everyone already forgotten the WORST attack on our country ---- EVER? 2020 - over throw of OUR government by FORIEGN and DOMESTIC actors. Who were they???? Remember when they were tracking all the IP addresses for the traffic around the elections? Where were they coming from?
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post. _________________ Plan B is actually repeating Plan A.... it just involves much more alcohol. Of the ten voices I hear in my head, only three keep telling me NOT to shoot.... Do I go with the majority or common sense? |
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Site Admin Location: Renton, WA Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 Posts: 52036 Real Name: Steve
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Guns4Liberty wrote: I don't trust the federal government to tell us the truth on virtually ANYTHING anymore; they have betrayed that trust far too many times. On that we can agree. The only thing worse than our federal government is our state government. _________________ Steve Benefactor Life Member, National Rifle Association Life Member, Second Amendment Foundation Patriot & Life Member, Gun Owners of America Life Member, Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms Legal Action Supporter, Firearms Policy Coalition Member, NAGR/NFGR Please support the organizations that support all of us. Leave it cleaner than you found it. |
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Site Supporter  Location: Renton Joined: Sat Mar 21, 2015 Posts: 2163
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Best solution. Make Ukraine a US territory.
Yes, it would likely trigger WW3. But what's the difference if nukes flying today or a year from now? I believe nukes are Putin's end game. _________________ Reloading is easy, it's growing back fingers that's tough. Studying for my Liberal Arts degree at Evergreen College. YouTube taught me, just like everybody else. |
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Site Supporter  Location: Burien Joined: Sun Sep 22, 2013 Posts: 5879
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hkhnm wrote: 321 tanks is a lot of tanks. I think Russia is in trouble. Europe is actually starting to step up. You need trained crews that can act in a coordinated manner with other tanks and branches, e.g. infantry, air support. This requires continual combined arms exercises to practice this. In addition, do their radios talk to each other (radios are not straightforward nowadays) in a secure manner? In addition to their other gear? Are there recovery vehicles trained to ascertain repairs and evacuate to a secure place with the crew? Are spare parts managed to have enough on hand for common repairs but to know what to order when something unexpected happens? Is there a fuel train ready and available to fuel these monsters? With trained fuelers, and appropriate vehicles? Where do they get this fuel? Even with a trained military with a secure line to the rear in good times, it takes time to properly maintain equipment, in addition to returning vehicles to operation. Adding different militaries to the mix, with different tanks, it's going to be more difficult. Just a few thoughts, I'm sure there are many other considerations I haven't considered. |
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