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You think an oil change by the @!#&ing stealership of all places would follow torque values, and not torque to F-outta it.

Drain plug is supposed to be 14 nm, and I hit 50 on my wrench before it started and they sheered the bolt pattern off, so had to use a cutting edge.

On top of that, the oil filter is tightened so hard, that a band wrench with sandpaper caused it to collapse. I ended up ripping the can in half with sheer strength and now have the threaded flange stuck on and suspect a cross-thread and/or metal to metal with the rubber washer missing.

I am thinking I have to dremmel a pizza slice out and cover the flow holes so I don't get shavings into the oil system. Has this happened before and you had something that worked?


Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:14 am
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Hammer a big screwdriver half way through the filter and use that to unscrew it. And change your own oil in the future


Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:39 am
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Arisaka wrote:
Hammer a big screwdriver half way through the filter and use that to unscrew it. And change your own oil in the future
Textbook!

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Arisaka wrote:
Hammer a big screwdriver half way through the filter and use that to unscrew it. And change your own oil in the future


Just getting ready to say that. My stepdad was an dealership mechanic and taught me that trick when I was in high school. Barring cross-threading, he said that the most common cause was failure to lube the gasket (which is what he said I'd done to cause it).


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I had one somebody put on so tight, it took Two(2) band filter wrenches to get it off.

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Wed Dec 16, 2020 1:05 pm
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Do everyone a favor and put a valve on the oil drain:

http://fumotousa.com/

No more worries about bunging up the threads. I have them on all my vehicles but the one on my Peterbilt makes life so much easier. It holds 13 gallons of oil so I have three 5 gallon buckets with lids to catch it. With the valve I can shut off the flow part way through and switch buckets without spilling a drop

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Take a chisel to the metal ring at the base of the oil filter. Use a steep angle to get the filter to turn. Did many this way at work when some IDIOT didn’t lube the gasket.


Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:08 pm
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Arisaka wrote:
Hammer a big screwdriver half way through the filter and use that to unscrew it. And change your own oil in the future


Or get Tesla. :ROFLMAO:

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new daddy wrote:
Arisaka wrote:
Hammer a big screwdriver half way through the filter and use that to unscrew it. And change your own oil in the future


Just getting ready to say that. My stepdad was an dealership mechanic and taught me that trick when I was in high school. Barring cross-threading, he said that the most common cause was failure to lube the gasket (which is what he said I'd done to cause it).


If shear strength and a strap wrench caused the filter to collapse and tear off, then a screwdriver would have done the same thing instantly... Once you puncture the casing it loses its structural integrity and tears even easier. Yes the screwdriver trip works great most times when your hand is slipping on the filter body so you cannot provide enough force to get it loose. But when they are jacked on like chucks it does not work and removes all other options. Best to try the strap wrench and other options 1st. FYI - the socket things that go on end of filter never work. :-p

CHUCK - Can you get to more than one side of the filter where it meets the engine? any sort of angle were you could punch/pry the filter base away from the engine? If so see if you can do that to make an ear stick up, then get said screwdriver thru one off the oiling ports of the base of the filter. The bases are usually pretty strong and it may allow you to leverage on it for more torque. Plus you break some surface tension between filter and engine...

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high school shop class. did the instructors car, his previous assistant had done the oil change last time. same thing, the oil filter wouldnt budge, my partner and I drove a screwdriver through the body. tore the fim lter body off as we turned it. ended up using a flat blade screw driver as a chisel and cut the rest of the filter body off. iirc, we pried and used something as a punch to get the filter base to break free and turn enough to loosen it up. never seen one like that since, but i hate working on cars and avoid it if practical


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Arisaka wrote:
Hammer a big screwdriver half way through the filter and use that to unscrew it. And change your own oil in the future


Or get Tesla. :ROFLMAO:


Its halfway there being a Volt but still carries the oil gene.


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It was def a 2020 version of an oil change.

All tricks failed, bent the pliers and started bending bolts before I got scared of destroying thread and drilled between holes and finished with a Dremel-like tool.


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Holy s***, whoever did that to your truck is in the wrong profession.

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Holy s***, whoever did that to your truck is in the wrong profession.


I made sure it shows up on google review, along with the pictures showing they did it.

I do almost all the work myself on all the vehicles. Some things are just so particular (such as back shocks in TJs) that I don't trust a shops, but the condo I was at during the time had the HOA types that send you nasty grams (and threats of fines) for working on your car. I would only be pissed at myself if I took it anywhere, but its the Chevy Dealership, and they still had Volts on the lot then.


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czgunner wrote:
Take a chisel to the metal ring at the base of the oil filter. Use a steep angle to get the filter to turn. Did many this way at work when some IDIOT didn’t lube the gasket.


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