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chuckisduck
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Location: Lynnwood Joined: Sat Nov 28, 2020 Posts: 789
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You think an oil change by the @!#&ing stealership of all places would follow torque values, and not torque to F-outta it.
Drain plug is supposed to be 14 nm, and I hit 50 on my wrench before it started and they sheered the bolt pattern off, so had to use a cutting edge.
On top of that, the oil filter is tightened so hard, that a band wrench with sandpaper caused it to collapse. I ended up ripping the can in half with sheer strength and now have the threaded flange stuck on and suspect a cross-thread and/or metal to metal with the rubber washer missing.
I am thinking I have to dremmel a pizza slice out and cover the flow holes so I don't get shavings into the oil system. Has this happened before and you had something that worked?
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Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:14 am |
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Arisaka
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Location: Tacoma Joined: Sat May 4, 2013 Posts: 6214
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Hammer a big screwdriver half way through the filter and use that to unscrew it. And change your own oil in the future
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Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:39 am |
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Traut
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Location: Downtown Newcastle Joined: Sat Mar 5, 2016 Posts: 3447
Real Name: Traut
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Arisaka wrote: Hammer a big screwdriver half way through the filter and use that to unscrew it. And change your own oil in the future Textbook!
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Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:52 am |
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new daddy
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Location: Normandy Park Joined: Sun Mar 11, 2012 Posts: 1416
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Arisaka wrote: Hammer a big screwdriver half way through the filter and use that to unscrew it. And change your own oil in the future Just getting ready to say that. My stepdad was an dealership mechanic and taught me that trick when I was in high school. Barring cross-threading, he said that the most common cause was failure to lube the gasket (which is what he said I'd done to cause it).
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Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:01 pm |
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cootduster
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Location: Ryderwood WA. Joined: Sun May 15, 2011 Posts: 5337
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I had one somebody put on so tight, it took Two(2) band filter wrenches to get it off.
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Wed Dec 16, 2020 1:05 pm |
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RocketScott
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Location: Kentucky Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2015 Posts: 11087
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Do everyone a favor and put a valve on the oil drain: http://fumotousa.com/No more worries about bunging up the threads. I have them on all my vehicles but the one on my Peterbilt makes life so much easier. It holds 13 gallons of oil so I have three 5 gallon buckets with lids to catch it. With the valve I can shut off the flow part way through and switch buckets without spilling a drop
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Wed Dec 16, 2020 1:43 pm |
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czgunner
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Location: WY Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2012 Posts: 174
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Take a chisel to the metal ring at the base of the oil filter. Use a steep angle to get the filter to turn. Did many this way at work when some IDIOT didn’t lube the gasket.
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Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:08 pm |
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surevaliance
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Location: AZ Joined: Fri Aug 17, 2018 Posts: 6793
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Arisaka wrote: Hammer a big screwdriver half way through the filter and use that to unscrew it. And change your own oil in the future Or get Tesla.
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Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:22 pm |
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lamrith
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Location: Tacoma/Puyallup Joined: Tue May 8, 2012 Posts: 4340
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new daddy wrote: Arisaka wrote: Hammer a big screwdriver half way through the filter and use that to unscrew it. And change your own oil in the future Just getting ready to say that. My stepdad was an dealership mechanic and taught me that trick when I was in high school. Barring cross-threading, he said that the most common cause was failure to lube the gasket (which is what he said I'd done to cause it). If shear strength and a strap wrench caused the filter to collapse and tear off, then a screwdriver would have done the same thing instantly... Once you puncture the casing it loses its structural integrity and tears even easier. Yes the screwdriver trip works great most times when your hand is slipping on the filter body so you cannot provide enough force to get it loose. But when they are jacked on like chucks it does not work and removes all other options. Best to try the strap wrench and other options 1st. FYI - the socket things that go on end of filter never work. :-p CHUCK - Can you get to more than one side of the filter where it meets the engine? any sort of angle were you could punch/pry the filter base away from the engine? If so see if you can do that to make an ear stick up, then get said screwdriver thru one off the oiling ports of the base of the filter. The bases are usually pretty strong and it may allow you to leverage on it for more torque. Plus you break some surface tension between filter and engine...
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Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:21 pm |
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NWRed
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Location: Puyallup for now Joined: Tue May 24, 2011 Posts: 2099
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high school shop class. did the instructors car, his previous assistant had done the oil change last time. same thing, the oil filter wouldnt budge, my partner and I drove a screwdriver through the body. tore the fim lter body off as we turned it. ended up using a flat blade screw driver as a chisel and cut the rest of the filter body off. iirc, we pried and used something as a punch to get the filter base to break free and turn enough to loosen it up. never seen one like that since, but i hate working on cars and avoid it if practical
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Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:33 pm |
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chuckisduck
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Location: Lynnwood Joined: Sat Nov 28, 2020 Posts: 789
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surevaliance wrote: Arisaka wrote: Hammer a big screwdriver half way through the filter and use that to unscrew it. And change your own oil in the future Or get Tesla. Its halfway there being a Volt but still carries the oil gene.
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Wed Dec 16, 2020 5:58 pm |
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chuckisduck
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Location: Lynnwood Joined: Sat Nov 28, 2020 Posts: 789
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It was def a 2020 version of an oil change.
All tricks failed, bent the pliers and started bending bolts before I got scared of destroying thread and drilled between holes and finished with a Dremel-like tool.
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Thu Dec 17, 2020 1:02 am |
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waglocker
Location: Ohio Joined: Fri Nov 9, 2012 Posts: 3924
Real Name: Sean
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Holy s***, whoever did that to your truck is in the wrong profession.
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Thu Dec 17, 2020 6:58 am |
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chuckisduck
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Location: Lynnwood Joined: Sat Nov 28, 2020 Posts: 789
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waglocker wrote: Holy s***, whoever did that to your truck is in the wrong profession. I made sure it shows up on google review, along with the pictures showing they did it. I do almost all the work myself on all the vehicles. Some things are just so particular (such as back shocks in TJs) that I don't trust a shops, but the condo I was at during the time had the HOA types that send you nasty grams (and threats of fines) for working on your car. I would only be pissed at myself if I took it anywhere, but its the Chevy Dealership, and they still had Volts on the lot then.
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Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:32 pm |
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catfishmoon
Location: Seattle Washington USA Joined: Tue Aug 25, 2020 Posts: 126
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czgunner wrote: Take a chisel to the metal ring at the base of the oil filter. Use a steep angle to get the filter to turn. Did many this way at work when some IDIOT didn’t lube the gasket. +1
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