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PinSniper
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Location: Seattle Joined: Wed Dec 21, 2016 Posts: 765
Real Name: Erik
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I've got a couple handguns coming into my chosen FFL tomorrow and yesterday was the 30 day mark for my CPL application. I called the King Country Courthouse and they said it's not even scheduled for another 32 days (which would still put them 2 days outside of their 60 day mark), she asked if I'm an out-of-state resident, which I'm not, I've been in King County for three years and have a drivers license stating as such and I applied as such. She asked if I was applying under an alien firearms license and I'm not. I'm a permanent resident. So she'll refer it to the head of the department who was out of the office at 3:30 when I called and will be in tomorrow. Looking at the law http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9.41.070It should definitely be "within thirty days after the filing". I don't want to be pushy, I just want to be able to collect it tomorrow so i can participate in my match on Saturday with my new toys! Has anyone else had similar delays outside of the thirty day time limit they have mandated by state law?
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Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:02 pm |
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Guntrader
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Location: Mukilteoish Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2011 Posts: 11595
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Problem is, there is no penalty if they take longer than 30 days unless you want to try and sue them. Some counties just hand it to you while you are there, some make you wait. Takes them a couple minutes to get the background check back. Depends on the policy set by the CLEO for that agency.
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Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:08 pm |
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ANZAC
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Location: 12 Acres in Eastern WA Joined: Sat Nov 10, 2012 Posts: 7251
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Guntrader wrote: Problem is, there is no penalty if they take longer than 30 days unless you want to try and sue them. Some counties just hand it to you while you are there, some make you wait. Takes them a couple minutes to get the background check back. Depends on the policy set by the CLEO for that agency. My experience with King County is that they want to ensure they get it done within the 30 days. They probably messed up on yours, I'd call them. If you don't get any luck, I'd try calling the DOL in Olympia. The time they messed up my first CPL and went (barely) a day outside the 30 days, they asked me to not call DOL to complain... And yes, I was a lawful permanent resident, Washington resident when I got my first CPL and 30 days applies.
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Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:22 pm |
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dreadi
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Location: Tacoma, Washington Joined: Fri Nov 21, 2014 Posts: 8388
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I have it on good authority that one agency within King County is three weeks behind on processing CPLs. The blurbs I've seen online about CPL applications on the rise is not a joke.
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Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:28 pm |
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mcyclonegt
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Location: West Olympia Joined: Mon May 28, 2012 Posts: 6817
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Why do you need a cpl to buy a firearm?
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Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:31 pm |
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os2firefox
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Location: Everett, WA Joined: Sat Aug 4, 2012 Posts: 2798
Real Name: Snek on de ladder
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So he doesn't wait the 10 day period and miss his pistol match?
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Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:42 pm |
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Breck
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Location: NW Montana Joined: Thu Dec 10, 2015 Posts: 1764
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Having a current and valid CPL is no guarantee that you'll be handed your firearm that day. I have one and been "delayed" the past 10 firearms purchases.
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Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:45 pm |
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os2firefox
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Location: Everett, WA Joined: Sat Aug 4, 2012 Posts: 2798
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True, but not having a CPL guarantees that you will have a waiting period on a handgun purchase.
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Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:49 pm |
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golddigger14s
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Location: Faxon, OK Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2011 Posts: 17830
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os2firefox wrote: So he doesn't wait the 10 day period and miss his pistol match? For the local check w/o a CPL there is no set number of days for a proceed. I've seen proceeds come in under 24 hours, and Ocean Shores PD taking the whole 30 days. Paperwork is valid for 30 days.
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Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:52 pm |
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PinSniper
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Location: Seattle Joined: Wed Dec 21, 2016 Posts: 765
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os2firefox wrote: True, but not having a CPL guarantees that you will have a waiting period on a handgun purchase. Yeah this, I'm usually NICS delayed a day each time I've bought a firearm due to being a green card holder. So basically if I can get my CPL tomorrow, do the paper work tomorrow, I'm very likely to have my pistol on Friday. If I don't get my CPL, well, I'm waiting for the CPL which sucks, and I'm definitely waiting out the handgun delay which varies greatly. My last handgun was 16 days.
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Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:04 pm |
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ANZAC
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Location: 12 Acres in Eastern WA Joined: Sat Nov 10, 2012 Posts: 7251
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os2firefox wrote: So he doesn't wait the 10 day period and miss his pistol match? There isn't a 10 day mandatory wait, that's only if there is no response to the background check/CLEO request. There is a wait if you don't have a CPL, but it isn't 10 days.
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Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:03 pm |
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beckdw
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Location: Tri -Cities Joined: Thu May 23, 2013 Posts: 2798
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Shit, my dad just got his, Bothell PD mailed it two days after application. I couldn't believe it. Snohomish county intentionally waits the 30 days, bastards. You should definitely press the issue. I would threaten (in a very calm manner of course) with DOL as well as a potential lawsuit. Stir the pot, my guess is they screwed up and won't want the scrutiny.
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Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:26 pm |
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os2firefox
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Location: Everett, WA Joined: Sat Aug 4, 2012 Posts: 2798
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ANZAC wrote: os2firefox wrote: So he doesn't wait the 10 day period and miss his pistol match? There isn't a 10 day mandatory wait, that's only if there is no response to the background check/CLEO request. There is a wait if you don't have a CPL, but it isn't 10 days. Technically correct, I just have never had an experience where the proceed came before the waiting period ended. Well, until I got myself a CPL.
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Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:57 pm |
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Buick_455
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Location: Monroe Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2011 Posts: 1016
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beckdw wrote: Shit, my dad just got his, Bothell PD mailed it two days after application. I couldn't believe it. Snohomish county intentionally waits the 30 days, bastards. You should definitely press the issue. I would threaten (in a very calm manner of course) with DOL as well as a potential lawsuit. Stir the pot, my guess is they screwed up and won't want the scrutiny. Snohomish County or King County? I filed for mine on a Monday afternoon late the week of Thanksgiving and had it in hand that Saturday in Snohomish County. I was told maybe 2 weeks and it just depends on the mental heath background check. That is what I was told can hold things up.
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Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:24 pm |
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mcyclonegt
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Location: West Olympia Joined: Mon May 28, 2012 Posts: 6817
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os2firefox wrote: True, but not having a CPL guarantees that you will have a waiting period on a handgun purchase. I bought a pistol a few months back. I forgot my CPL so he rang it up the old fashion way. Got the go ahead the next day and picked it up. Sorry did not see the responses above. I understand what you mean now. I guess Thurston county is on top of their shit.
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