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survivor
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Location: Kent Joined: Wed Mar 13, 2013 Posts: 1660
Real Name: Andy
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mcyclonegt wrote: dreadi wrote: Until three months ago I had never seen or used a mill. Since then I've finished two rifle receivers and one 1911 with another soon to be finished. Don't discount yourself from learning. I agree with this. I have some scrap aluminum blocks if you want to practice. I could even show you how to use it. I have an excess of plastic/Delrin blocks of varied dimensions. They machine easily. Can be used to make bushings and fixtures. I can give a some of them as well.
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Fri Jun 03, 2016 1:52 pm |
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ElNeusch
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Location: Olympia Joined: Sat May 21, 2011 Posts: 98
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Wow really that would be awesome. I may just take you up on that offer.
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Sat Jun 04, 2016 9:27 pm |
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Massivedesign
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Location: Olympia, WA Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 Posts: 38319
Real Name: Dan
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ElNeusch wrote: Wow really that would be awesome. I may just take you up on that offer. Yes, you should keep it... Then I can just come to your house and play on it..
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Sun Jun 05, 2016 6:27 am |
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ElNeusch
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Location: Olympia Joined: Sat May 21, 2011 Posts: 98
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mcyclonegt you might just have the makings of class.
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Sun Jun 05, 2016 9:56 pm |
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olydemon
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Location: Olympia, Warshington. Joined: Fri May 27, 2011 Posts: 12509
Real Name: Oly Damon
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Do you have any interest in keeping it and learning to machine, or would it just take up space collecting dust?
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Sun Jun 05, 2016 10:13 pm |
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olydemon
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Location: Olympia, Warshington. Joined: Fri May 27, 2011 Posts: 12509
Real Name: Oly Damon
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ElNeusch wrote: Wow really that would be awesome. I may just take you up on that offer. I have some simple 2 flute endmills I could also donate for the lessons. Im sure they would be fine for cutting aluminum. They are a 1/8th and 1/4 inch.
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Sun Jun 05, 2016 10:14 pm |
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ElNeusch
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Location: Olympia Joined: Sat May 21, 2011 Posts: 98
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Oly as a matter of fact I do have interest in keeping it and learning to machine... Unfortunately as my Boss <wife> likes to keep pointing out to me. I have no time for another hobby, skill, or job. So I posted it again. Cant wait to retire . . . viewtopic.php?f=14&t=70071
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Wed Jun 22, 2016 10:55 pm |
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mcyclonegt
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Location: West Olympia Joined: Mon May 28, 2012 Posts: 6817
Real Name: Matt
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Bummer. I understand, my time is thin also. If you end up keeping it my offer stands.
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Thu Jun 23, 2016 7:41 am |
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dreadi
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Location: Tacoma, Washington Joined: Fri Nov 21, 2014 Posts: 8388
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Does it come with tooling or anything? I looked at the post and was asking myself, "What made this a $3,000 mill drill?" I bought a Grizzly mill drill earlier this year and spent less than $2,000 with some tooling, a stand, and other accessories including tax.
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Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:43 am |
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mcyclonegt
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Location: West Olympia Joined: Mon May 28, 2012 Posts: 6817
Real Name: Matt
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dreadi wrote: Does it come with tooling or anything? I looked at the post and was asking myself, "What made this a $3,000 mill drill?" I bought a Grizzly mill drill earlier this year and spent less than $2,000 with some tooling, a stand, and other accessories including tax. Not sure what you bought but lots of things can add to the value like, HP, table size and travel, digital read outs, variable speed or not and chuck type.
_________________ "I'm Hub McCann. I've fought in two World Wars and countless smaller ones on three continents. I led thousands of men into battle with everything from horses and swords to artillery and TANKS! I've seen the headwaters of the Nile, and tribes of natives no white man had ever seen before. I've won and lost a dozen fortunes, KILLED MANY MEN! And loved only one woman, with a passion a FLEA like you could never begin to understand. That's who I am. NOW, GO HOME, BOY!"
"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones". Albert Einstein 1947
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Thu Jun 23, 2016 1:08 pm |
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dreadi
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Location: Tacoma, Washington Joined: Fri Nov 21, 2014 Posts: 8388
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mcyclonegt wrote: dreadi wrote: Does it come with tooling or anything? I looked at the post and was asking myself, "What made this a $3,000 mill drill?" I bought a Grizzly mill drill earlier this year and spent less than $2,000 with some tooling, a stand, and other accessories including tax. Not sure what you bought but lots of things can add to the value like, HP, table size and travel, digital read outs, variable speed or not and chuck type. I agree. When you look at the post and link, do you see a $3,000 mill drill?
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Thu Jun 23, 2016 1:52 pm |
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ElNeusch
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Location: Olympia Joined: Sat May 21, 2011 Posts: 98
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I based my price purely off Grizzly and few other web sights selling price. Please educate me. I honestly have no idea. From my perspective the value of the unused mill it self ranges from 25 to 2700 and the stand its sitting on 4 to 500 dollar stand. In turn I figure post it for 2k in hopes I can get an offer of around 15 to 1700. Does this machinery truly depreciate that much when it leaves the manufacturer? There are comparable setups with noticeable use selling for next to full value on ebay. Like I said please educate me.
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Sat Jun 25, 2016 2:23 pm |
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dreadi
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Location: Tacoma, Washington Joined: Fri Nov 21, 2014 Posts: 8388
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I'm trying to get educated as well. I'm not questioning your price. I was asking the same and similar questions when I was shopping and buying, and I'm till not sure if I over spent or under spent on the machine.
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Sat Jun 25, 2016 3:41 pm |
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mcyclonegt
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Location: West Olympia Joined: Mon May 28, 2012 Posts: 6817
Real Name: Matt
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Typically machinery holds its value. Lathes and mills dont depreciate much until its worn out. I have a 70 year old lathe that is still worth half of what a new one would cost. But its tight and taken care of. Once a machine is worn, its worth its weight in scrap. 2k for a 2700 dollar machine is not bad at all. The only thing it has going against it is the fact that its an imported machine. You have it priced fair. 1500 would be a steal. I wish i was in the market for one, i would be on the way to your house. American made machines cost a premium, but are not as common as the old South bend lathes and Bridgeport mills. Everyone has gone to cnc machines, so a brand new manual machine Doesnt make as much sense for a shop. It has its place, but wont get used much.
_________________ "I'm Hub McCann. I've fought in two World Wars and countless smaller ones on three continents. I led thousands of men into battle with everything from horses and swords to artillery and TANKS! I've seen the headwaters of the Nile, and tribes of natives no white man had ever seen before. I've won and lost a dozen fortunes, KILLED MANY MEN! And loved only one woman, with a passion a FLEA like you could never begin to understand. That's who I am. NOW, GO HOME, BOY!"
"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones". Albert Einstein 1947
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Sat Jun 25, 2016 8:28 pm |
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CarlMc
Location: North of Seattle Joined: Sat Jan 30, 2016 Posts: 45
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dreadi wrote: Until three months ago I had never seen or used a mill. Since then I've finished two rifle receivers and one 1911 with another soon to be finished. Don't discount yourself from learning. This. Nothing like a goal to help you focus on learning what needs to be learned.
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Thu Aug 25, 2016 6:21 pm |
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