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Is honey hole Oso/Darrington 1 any good?
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Real Name: J
Joined: Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:59 pm Posts: 891 Location: Apple Country!
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Checked it out results as follows: Quote:
Parcel # 32070500100200 - Owner 100 GREEN CROW Parcel # 32070600100100 - Owner 100 GREEN CROW Parcel # 32070700100100 - Owner 100 GREEN CROW Parcel # 32070700100200 - Owner 100 GREEN CROW Parcel # 32070700100400 - Owner 100 GREEN CROW Parcel # 32070700300200 - Owner 100 GREEN CROW Parcel # 32070800102100 - Owner 100 GREEN CROW Parcel # 32070800200100 - Owner 100 GREEN CROW
Most is Timber (880 DF Timber Acres Only RCW 84.33) or (889 DF Timber Acres / Imp/Unimp Ac No Bldg)
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| Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:25 am |
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Massivedesign
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Real Name: Dan
Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 8:02 am Posts: 15021 Location: Olympia, WA
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And some more: From him: Quote: What is your phone number? I provided mine in my first message. You have no idea what a big problem this has been for several years. I have been the one who has spent many hours picking up the debris, had to stomach seeing the damage to our trees, putting up signs that get torn down, and then having to listen to the other neighbors complains about the noise. You bet I am angry. My reply: Quote: Based upon the level of communications, I would rather keep this via email. I am sure you would understand that I do not feel like being verbally berated and our site blamed for a minority of shooters who do not pick up after themselves. Especially since that map page is less than a year old.
Being an active shooter and outdoorsman, I have seen the by-product of what happens when irresponsible people use our public (and private) lands as a dumping ground. I am one of many people who will go out of my way to pack out MORE than I packed in when I come to places like that. There is a member of our online community, Robert, who goes by the moniker FMJ911 who frequents your property (unaware that it is private, until now). Every time he goes there he mentions how much he has packed out in the way of trash and debris that was left by others. He has even been trying to organize a group clean-up effort for those locations. These are the people who are working, voluntarily, on your behalf to keep that area cleaned up.
I know that if one could guarantee that all visitors to your property were like Robert then this discussion wouldn't have taken place. Alas, I cannot speak for the over 360,000 firearm owners in the State though.
Now that it has been brought to our attention that the property located is private property, and that the land owner wishes the activity to stop, we will do our part by removing the location on our map. I cannot control the access to your property or the will of the individual who will continue to shoot there.
I wish you the best of luck in attempting to regain control of your area. From what I have heard, that area has been known as a "shooting spot" for many years. I will make a post on our site and others outlining our conversation and expressing the property owners wishes to keep people off.
Let me know if there is more we can do.
Dan
_________________Dan aka massivedesign MadPick wrote: It's interesting that our president trusts North Korea with nukes, but doesn't trust me with a 30-round magazine.
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LocoDuck
Joined: Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:52 pm Posts: 4 Location: Maybe I should update my location?
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A bummer in more ways than one, but thanks for posting the info. Guess it's time to find another spot...
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| Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:31 am |
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olydemon
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Real Name: Oly Damon
Joined: Thu May 26, 2011 9:42 pm Posts: 7814 Location: Olympia, Warshington.
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| Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:39 am |
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FMJ 911
Real Name: Bojangles
Joined: Wed Oct 12, 2011 2:52 am Posts: 1739 Location: Peoples Republic of Snohomishia
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I feel bad for listing that place. I only wanted to help.
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| Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:53 pm |
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Massivedesign
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Real Name: Dan
Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 8:02 am Posts: 15021 Location: Olympia, WA
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I don't think it was you Robert. There were others using the pits as well. As I mentioned in one of the emails, you were a person who tried to make the place cleaner.
_________________Dan aka massivedesign MadPick wrote: It's interesting that our president trusts North Korea with nukes, but doesn't trust me with a 30-round magazine.
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| Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:59 pm |
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FMJ 911
Real Name: Bojangles
Joined: Wed Oct 12, 2011 2:52 am Posts: 1739 Location: Peoples Republic of Snohomishia
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Yes, You're right. I shouldn't feel bad. But some resentment remains nonetheless.
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| Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:04 pm |
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deadshot2
Joined: Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:33 am Posts: 3378 Location: NW Quadrant WA State
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So he says that when you leave "their land" you are now on "Department of Natural Resources land that is off limits to shooting and trespassing as well.". Is this DNR land considered a No Shoot Zone? I always thought that DNR land was considered Public land and unless closely surrounded by occupied areas (housing, campground, etc) that "Target Shooting" was an authorized use.
Boy did this guy come off like he had sawdust in his jock strap. I'll bet his picture is in a dictionary somewhere right along with the definition of "a-hole".
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jet-tech1
Joined: Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:38 pm Posts: 6 Location: Marysville, WA
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Oh Lord... Sorry you had to go through that for my stupid question. I appreciate your help and the leg work you put in on this. I guess I'll stay away. It just seemed exactly what I was used to in the deserts of Nevada. Hopefully someone can find another one out there somewhere.
Thanks again
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| Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:42 pm |
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TacticalAssault
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Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 11:03 am Posts: 2725 Location: Woodinville
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DnR land is public use land. Unless there are signs that say "No Shooting" DnR land is open to any and all outdoor activities as long as you follow their rules. The following is regarding Washington state DnR land. Quote: 332-52-145 Firearms and target shooting. (1) What is recreational target shooting? Recreational target shooting is the use of a firearm or bow and arrow on targets and the sighting in of rifles or other firearms on department-managed lands. The department regulates and enforces target shooting on department-managed lands.
(a) The department may restrict target shooting for the reasons set forth in WAC 332-52-100.
(b) Persons shall not target shoot carelessly, recklessly, or without regard for the safety of any person, or in a manner that endangers, or is likely to endanger, any person, pet, livestock, wildlife or property.
(c) Persons shall not discharge tracer or incendiary ammunition or projectile devices on department-managed lands. For purposes of this subsection, "incendiary" means causing or designed to cause fires, such as certain substances or bombs. "Tracer ammunition" means a bullet, projectile, or shell that traces its own course in the air with a trail of smoke, chemical incandescence, or fire, so as to facilitate adjustment of the aim.
(2) Does recreational target shooting include hunting? No. This section does not apply to hunting activities, which are subject to the rules and regulations administered by the Washington state department of fish and wildlife.
(3) Where is target shooting permitted?
(a) Persons may target shoot in:
(i) Developed recreation facilities specifically designed for target shooting; or
(ii) Areas with an unobstructed, earthen backstop capable of stopping all projectiles and debris in a safe manner.
Persons shall not target shoot in any other location.
(b) Persons shall not shoot within, from, along, across, or down roads or trails.
(c) Persons shall not shoot on, at, across, along, down, from, or within five hundred feet, of:
(i) Recreational facilities that are not specifically designed for target shooting;
(ii) Residences;
(iii) Businesses;
(iv) Structures;
(v) Other areas as restricted;
(vi) Areas designated or posted as no shooting.
(4) What may be used as a target?
(a) Items that are commercially manufactured for the specific purpose of target shooting or similar targets privately manufactured by the person(s) engaging in target shooting that are consistent with this section.
(b) Unauthorized targets include but are not limited to:
(i) Natural features, except earthen berms or banks used as backstops for target shooting;
(ii) Vegetation;
(iii) Structures;
(iv) Gates;
(v) Vehicles;
(vi) Signs;
(vii) Other department improvements;
(viii) Appliances;
(ix) Furniture;
(x) Glass;
(xi) Privately owned or occupied structures;
(xii) Pets, service animals or livestock;
(xiii) Wildlife;
(xiv) Explosive and incendiary items;
(xv) Garbage of any kind.
Persons shall not target shoot at unauthorized targets.
(5) When is target shooting permitted? Unless otherwise posted, persons shall not target shoot one-half hour after sunset to one-half hour before sunrise.
(6) Is possession of a loaded firearm in or on a motor vehicle permitted on department-managed lands? Persons shall not possess a loaded firearm in or on a motor vehicle, except as provided by state law.
(7) Who is responsible for disposing of spent items resulting from target shooting? Persons who target shoot shall dispose of spent items and remove all shell casings, targets, ammunition packaging, or target fragments resulting from their activity, with the exception of biodegradable clay targets. Failure to remove any such debris is prohibited.
(8) Any violation of this section is a misdemeanor except a violation of subsection (7) of this section is an infraction under chapter 7.84 RCW.
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olydemon
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Real Name: Oly Damon
Joined: Thu May 26, 2011 9:42 pm Posts: 7814 Location: Olympia, Warshington.
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So... WAGUNS group shoot on that piece of DNR land?
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| Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:28 pm |
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LocoDuck
Joined: Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:52 pm Posts: 4 Location: Maybe I should update my location?
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Is there a good resource for accurate maps of "public" lands? I haven't seen signs at hole 1...
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| Thu Apr 26, 2012 5:09 pm |
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G-19
Real Name: Mike
Joined: Tue May 24, 2011 10:50 pm Posts: 375 Location: Bothell, WA
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Quote: I haven't seen signs at hole 1... Nor have I.
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| Thu Apr 26, 2012 5:32 pm |
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Massivedesign
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Real Name: Dan
Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 8:02 am Posts: 15021 Location: Olympia, WA
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Geodata isn't available online, you will have to go to a DNR office.
_________________Dan aka massivedesign MadPick wrote: It's interesting that our president trusts North Korea with nukes, but doesn't trust me with a 30-round magazine.
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| Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:30 pm |
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FMJ 911
Real Name: Bojangles
Joined: Wed Oct 12, 2011 2:52 am Posts: 1739 Location: Peoples Republic of Snohomishia
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G-19 wrote: Quote: I haven't seen signs at hole 1... Nor have I. I have never seen ANY signs, or any evidence of signs that were ever there. My Brother would also agree with me on that, He's never seen any signs either, and he's lived near there since 1995. Doesn't the law require that a sign be posted on Private Property?
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| Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:37 pm |
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