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A Small Primer On Mosin Rifles
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Massivedesign
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Location: Olympia, WA Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 Posts: 38322
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That's a lot of cosmo! Fun times are in your future.
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Fri Jun 14, 2013 6:04 am |
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root
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Location: Apple Country! Joined: Thu Apr 12, 2012 Posts: 4578
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I think I am just going to throw them up on top of the car port in the NCW sun.
That works, right?
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Fri Jun 14, 2013 8:50 am |
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PMB
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root wrote: I think I am just going to throw them up on top of the car port in the NCW sun.
That works, right? Black roof? That'll do it!
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Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:05 am |
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uber
Location: mukilteo Joined: Sat Mar 2, 2013 Posts: 105
Real Name: justin
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so I'm considering picking up my first mosin, but I plan on (don't kill me for saying this) getting the archangel stock for it. can you recommend a good source for a plain jane rifle I can get to convert? I'd hate to find some random rifle and strip her down only to find out it was actually some rare piece. while I might not be after the nostalgia aspect, I do have some respect for it.
is it fairly safe to assume that the cabela $169 rifles are all fairly basic ones?
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Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:38 pm |
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MosinZealot
Location: Tumwater/Lacey Joined: Sun Jul 8, 2012 Posts: 89
Real Name: Герой
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I have eyeballed those refurbs just to make sure there wasn't something unique that I didn't have in the collection yet. It'd be pretty safe to assume that if you picked up one of those and wanted to molest it and chop it up or do whatever, then that would be the one to choose.
If there is anything about the refurbs, it could be possible to come across a Finn captured 91/30, that was recaptured by the Russians and refurbed with Russian refurb marks on it. Or MO marked with the additional dates added to the barrel shank. Or an ex-sniper. There could be ex-Dragoon rifles mixed in there, but they were updated with 91/30 sights.
You can put an Archangel stock on any rifle, but if you want to do chop chop to it, find a 91/30 refurb. Otherwise if you're not chopping anything then you don't have to worry about ruining something that could be potentially vaulable.
I've been thinking about one of these stocks too just for the heck of it. Let us know if you get one.
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Thu Jul 04, 2013 4:25 am |
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olydemon
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Location: Olympia, Warshington. Joined: Fri May 27, 2011 Posts: 12509
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uber wrote: so I'm considering picking up my first mosin, but I plan on (don't kill me for saying this) getting the archangel stock for it. can you recommend a good source for a plain jane rifle I can get to convert? I'd hate to find some random rifle and strip her down only to find out it was actually some rare piece. while I might not be after the nostalgia aspect, I do have some respect for it.
is it fairly safe to assume that the cabela $169 rifles are all fairly basic ones? Another option as well. "Barreled receiver combination with very nice bores, no sights, with trigger group and extractor, $55" http://preciseshooter.com/Products/MosinLegoSet.aspxI have the archangel stock, and pulled my run of the mill 91/30 apart to drop in the new stock. It doesn't do any damage just swapping the action, but when it is time for me to bubba the thing down I plan to get one of those barreled receivers....
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Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:24 am |
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uber
Location: mukilteo Joined: Sat Mar 2, 2013 Posts: 105
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awesome.. i was actually hoping for something just like this. i'll have to hit the up next payday. thanks! olydemon wrote: Another option as well. "Barreled receiver combination with very nice bores, no sights, with trigger group and extractor, $55" http://preciseshooter.com/Products/MosinLegoSet.aspxI have the archangel stock, and pulled my run of the mill 91/30 apart to drop in the new stock. It doesn't do any damage just swapping the action, but when it is time for me to bubba the thing down I plan to get one of those barreled receivers....
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Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:04 pm |
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MosinZealot
Location: Tumwater/Lacey Joined: Sun Jul 8, 2012 Posts: 89
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_________________ I am a Mosin Nagant evangelist, and I am on a mission to convert YOU! Always looking for Non-Import marked Nagant revolvers and Mosin Nagant rifles! Contact me if you are willing to sell!
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Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:37 pm |
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MosinZealot
Location: Tumwater/Lacey Joined: Sun Jul 8, 2012 Posts: 89
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Got a tip off from a buddy of mine that a fella whom I had spoken with a few times at the local gun show, had a 8mm converted M91. I was thinking Blindee, and very excited. After I was finally in contact with the guy, it was a slight lost in translation deal, as it turns out, this 1895 Tula M91 has a Mauser adapter on the end of the barrel, to accept German bayonets. The bayonet pictured is a German butcher blade, but I believe it would have also accepted Commission Mauser bayonets, and Ersatz bayonets. I had never even seen a bayonet sleeve like this before, but knew the Germans outfitted some Russian M91s with the Mauser style bayonet lug and barrel band like the G/K98s. Bore is really quite nice, pretty shiny, sharp lands and grooves. Stock had a crack near the tang area of the receiver. Looks like some finishing type nails were used to keep it in place. No sling slot escutcheons. Bolt looks to me to be German stamped matching shank, floor plate matches. Butt plate looks to have a unit number on it. No import marks I see anywhere. The guy I got it from said he got it in the 1960s, and has had it since then. The unit translates to: "I_C- Green with envy - nice find! A is likely artillery, 5 the regiment, 4th company, 18th weapon. This from Jeff Noll's book: "The Imperial German Regimental Marking." southridge" The post I made and the thread discussion regarding the unit marking can be seen here: http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread. ... -Buttplate
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Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:41 pm |
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MadPick
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That's pretty cool. What caliber is it? Is ammo available, or can you reload for it?
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Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:43 pm |
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usrifle
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_________________ Mr. Q wrote: so basically, if you have to smoke some asshole, make sure they become fertilizer and then Bounce? got it.
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usrifle
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_________________ Mr. Q wrote: so basically, if you have to smoke some asshole, make sure they become fertilizer and then Bounce? got it.
Guntrader wrote: Huh, maybe I was an asshole.
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Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:29 pm |
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usrifle
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A VKT marked "B" barrel with Belgian Leige proof and VKT pressure proof. The Leige proof can be above or below the woodline, very uncommon M91.
_________________ Mr. Q wrote: so basically, if you have to smoke some asshole, make sure they become fertilizer and then Bounce? got it.
Guntrader wrote: Huh, maybe I was an asshole.
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Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:47 pm |
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Zwitter
Location: Puyallup Joined: Wed Jul 4, 2012 Posts: 1128
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Wonder if MZ's rifle was a wartime Volksstrum or POA conversion.
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Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:44 pm |
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MosinZealot
Location: Tumwater/Lacey Joined: Sun Jul 8, 2012 Posts: 89
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The M91 with the bayonet sleeve on it, was a known German modification. Just not many of them are around. I would have to believe it's a wartime conversion. Post war, they were getting rid of weapons. It is my understanding that these suchly modified rifles were probably rear echelon. But I suppose it's possible it could have been Volkssturm. But if the unit mark on the butt plate is indeed artillery, I think I may be inclined to believe it's probably not a VS mod.
_________________ I am a Mosin Nagant evangelist, and I am on a mission to convert YOU! Always looking for Non-Import marked Nagant revolvers and Mosin Nagant rifles! Contact me if you are willing to sell!
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