Gun store Shooting Locations It is currently Thu Mar 28, 2024 2:06 pm



Rules WGO Chat Room Gear Rent Me Shield NRA SAF CCKRBA
Calendar




Reply to topic  [ 15 posts ] 
 1911 45 acp 4.25" barrel load data for 230 grain fmj 
Author Message
Site Supporter
User avatar
Site Supporter

Location: Great Falls Montana
Joined: Fri Mar 18, 2011
Posts: 802
Real Name: Patrick Horsfall
Hey guys, anyone here have accurate load data for a 45 ACP 230 grain fmj and a 4.25" Commander barrel? Any information is much appreciated. Thanks in advance :thumbsup2:

_________________
Please call or text for a faster response.(360) 280-4869 or 406 217-5473


Fri Jun 02, 2017 2:13 pm
Profile
Site Supporter
User avatar
Site Supporter

Location: Bellingham Canada
Joined: Thu Jan 3, 2013
Posts: 4998
Real Name: Josheewa
Same as a 5" Barrel.
What is your projectile? What is your powder?
I've had good luck with this site. Start a little low and work your way up.
http://www.handloads.com/loaddata/

I load Bear Creek moly coated 200 grain RNHB with 5.6-5.9 grains of Win 231 or HP38 with an OAL of around about 1.25". These will fire in any 1911 no matter the barrel length. That's been my recipe for years. I also really like Accurate #2 and Unique for 45acp.

_________________
It must be frustrating always being the smartest person in the room.-Jagerbomber35


Divided we fall.


Fri Jun 02, 2017 2:17 pm
Profile
User avatar

Location: marysville,wash
Joined: Sun Nov 20, 2011
Posts: 413
Real Name: steve
I use 5.0 grains of reddot


Fri Jun 02, 2017 7:37 pm
Profile
Online
Site Supporter
User avatar
Site Supporter

Location: Bonney Lake
Joined: Tue Dec 2, 2014
Posts: 650
Real Name: Jon
5.5gr titegroup with 230gr bullet seated around 1.275. I use it on multiple 1911's including commander barrels and my XD's.


Fri Jun 02, 2017 8:39 pm
Profile
Site Supporter
User avatar
Site Supporter

Location: Airway heights
Joined: Sun Mar 20, 2011
Posts: 12246
Real Name: Michael
5.3 of #2 it has never let me down. Works in my 1911's, sig, H&K and everything else I have tried like the kriss

_________________
ANZAC wrote:
That one that says "From my cold dead hands..... will require a background check"


He who does not punish evil commands it to be done. --- Leonardo DaVinci

When its time to go in:
That place of steel and stone. I pray that you will keep me safe, so I will not walk alone. Help me to do my duty, please watch me on my rounds.
Amongst those perilous places and slamming steel door sounds. God, keep my fellow Officers well and free from harm. Let them know I'll be there too, whenever there's alarm.
Above all when I walk my beat, no matter where I roam. Let me go back whence I came, to family and home

Author unknown.


Fri Jun 02, 2017 10:45 pm
Profile
Site Supporter
User avatar
Site Supporter

Location: Bellingham Canada
Joined: Thu Jan 3, 2013
Posts: 4998
Real Name: Josheewa
mash man wrote:
5.3 of #2 it has never let me down. Works in my 1911's, sig, H&K and everything else I have tried like the kriss

Accurate #2 is the holy grail of powders for pistol applications. Went a few years recently with none on the shelves. I'm really happy that it is making a comeback. It will power 9mm and 38 special excellently also.

_________________
It must be frustrating always being the smartest person in the room.-Jagerbomber35


Divided we fall.


Sat Jun 03, 2017 6:18 am
Profile
Site Supporter
User avatar
Site Supporter

Location: Airway heights
Joined: Sun Mar 20, 2011
Posts: 12246
Real Name: Michael
OhShoot! wrote:
mash man wrote:
5.3 of #2 it has never let me down. Works in my 1911's, sig, H&K and everything else I have tried like the kriss

Accurate #2 is the holy grail of powders for pistol applications. Went a few years recently with none on the shelves. I'm really happy that it is making a comeback. It will power 9mm and 38 special excellently also.


I know right. When you find a 5 lbs jug you see a beam of light shining down lol.

_________________
ANZAC wrote:
That one that says "From my cold dead hands..... will require a background check"


He who does not punish evil commands it to be done. --- Leonardo DaVinci

When its time to go in:
That place of steel and stone. I pray that you will keep me safe, so I will not walk alone. Help me to do my duty, please watch me on my rounds.
Amongst those perilous places and slamming steel door sounds. God, keep my fellow Officers well and free from harm. Let them know I'll be there too, whenever there's alarm.
Above all when I walk my beat, no matter where I roam. Let me go back whence I came, to family and home

Author unknown.


Sat Jun 03, 2017 9:36 am
Profile
Site Supporter
User avatar
Site Supporter

Location: maple valley
Joined: Mon May 6, 2013
Posts: 2575
Real Name: Earl
I use 5.2 gr of vv320. 181 power factor with plated bullets 230gr.
I use slower powders like true blue for xtp hollowpoints


Sat Jun 03, 2017 9:40 am
Profile
Site Supporter
User avatar
Site Supporter

Location: Nisqually Valley
Joined: Wed Oct 5, 2016
Posts: 4809
4.8 of 700X


Sat Jun 03, 2017 9:47 am
Profile
Site Supporter
User avatar
Site Supporter

Location: Great Falls Montana
Joined: Fri Mar 18, 2011
Posts: 802
Real Name: Patrick Horsfall
Thanks for the information. Current powders on hand are, Titegroup, AA452, HP-38, Longshot, 800X, Clays, Universal and Green dot. So far I'm getting accurate loads using Longshot on the minimum starting load @ 6.3 grains The velocity is 848 fps but that's for a 5" barrel. I wonder approximately what my fps is coming out of 4.25" barrel?

_________________
Please call or text for a faster response.(360) 280-4869 or 406 217-5473


Mon Jun 05, 2017 10:20 pm
Profile
Site Supporter
User avatar
Site Supporter

Location: Bellingham Canada
Joined: Thu Jan 3, 2013
Posts: 4998
Real Name: Josheewa
phorsfall wrote:
Thanks for the information. Current powders on hand are, Titegroup, AA452, HP-38, Longshot, 800X, Clays, Universal and Green dot. So far I'm getting accurate loads using Longshot on the minimum starting load @ 6.3 grains The velocity is 848 fps but that's for a 5" barrel. I wonder approximately what my fps is coming out of 4.25" barrel?

Be careful with titegroup. Great powder, but goes overly explosive rapidly when overfilled. Wes always warned me about Titegroup.

_________________
It must be frustrating always being the smartest person in the room.-Jagerbomber35


Divided we fall.


Tue Jun 06, 2017 5:45 am
Profile
Site Supporter
User avatar
Site Supporter

Location: The banana belt of MT
Joined: Wed Dec 30, 2015
Posts: 8578
Real Name: Brian
Here is load data/chrono data from a Colt Commander in 4.25 barrel using CFE Pistol Powder and a cast 225 bullet, powder coated.
These run about 75 fps slower than Winchester 45ACP white box and that's fine for plinking ammo.


You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

_________________
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me."- Hunter S. Thompson


Sun Jun 11, 2017 6:52 am
Profile
Site Supporter
User avatar
Site Supporter

Location: Skagit County, in the woods
Joined: Tue Apr 7, 2015
Posts: 1058
phorsfall wrote:
Thanks for the information. Current powders on hand are, Titegroup, AA452, HP-38, Longshot, 800X, Clays, Universal and Green dot. So far I'm getting accurate loads using Longshot on the minimum starting load @ 6.3 grains The velocity is 848 fps but that's for a 5" barrel. I wonder approximately what my fps is coming out of 4.25" barrel?


Could be slower, could be faster; it really just depends on your barrel and the specific load. Any guesses about the velocity difference are just guesses.


Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:08 pm
Profile
Site Supporter
User avatar
Site Supporter

Location: The banana belt of MT
Joined: Wed Dec 30, 2015
Posts: 8578
Real Name: Brian
Just a quick chrono'ing test on a 2" barrel vs 3" barrel resulted in the 2" barrel velocity at a slower velocity, by about 75 fps slower, than 3". My guess is that a 4 1/4 inch barrel will be slighlty slowere than a 5".

I will run a test this weekend with a Commander and full length barrel 1911.

_________________
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me."- Hunter S. Thompson


Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:10 am
Profile
Site Supporter
User avatar
Site Supporter

Location: Skagit County, in the woods
Joined: Tue Apr 7, 2015
Posts: 1058
I have also seen 4-1/4" 1911 barrels be faster than other 5" barrels. You really can't make a worthwhile guess on this one, gotta measure it to know.


Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:43 pm
Profile
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Reply to topic   [ 15 posts ] 

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 24 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum



Rules WGO Chat Room Gear Rent Me NRA SAF CCKRBA
Calendar


Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
Designed by ST Software for PTF.
[ Time : 0.557s | 16 Queries | GZIP : Off ]