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Bullet weight vs recoil
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 Site Supporter   Location: Nampa, Idaho Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 19479 Real Name: Rick 
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I'd like to know more about 9mm bullet differences. (or any caliber, really)
How does Weight/Muzzle Energy ft·lb/Muzzle Velocity ft/sec. affect the Examples RBCD Ammunition Ballistics Round 9mm Type TFSP Weight 60 Muzzle Energy ft·lb 539 Muzzle Velocity ft/sec. 2010 vs Blazer Ammunition Ballistics Round 9mm Type JHP Weight 147 Muzzle Energy ft·lb 295 Muzzle Velocity ft/sec. 950 I pretty much picked the two most opposite rounds I could find. Which one kicks the most vs stings the most? The gun being used would be a single shot, non-semi auto. **EDIT TITLE & DEFINITION** _________________ ‘What’s the point of being a citizen if an illegal gets all the benefits’ Last edited by AR15L on Fri Dec 01, 2023 5:47 am, edited 1 time in total. |
| Thu Nov 30, 2023 6:00 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Lynnwood and at large Joined: Wed May 1, 2013 Posts: 21303 Real Name: Vick Lagina
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https://www.stevespages.com/brecoil.shtml
Recoil calculator. BTW: What is a non-semi-auto? Bolt gun? A break barrel like a Thompson Contender or CVA Scout? _________________ “Finding ‘common ground’ with the thinking of evil men is a fool’s errand” ~ Herschel Smith "The “A return to First Principles in a Republic is sometimes caused by simple virtues of a single man. His good example has such an influence that the good men strive to imitate him, and the wicked are ashamed to lead a life so contrary to his example. Before all else, be armed!” ~ Niccolo Machiavelli Láodòng zhèng zhūwèi zìyóu FJB |
| Thu Nov 30, 2023 6:19 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Nampa, Idaho Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 19479 Real Name: Rick
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jukk0u wrote: https://www.stevespages.com/brecoil.shtml Recoil calculator. BTW: What is a non-semi-auto? Bolt gun? A break barrel like a Thompson Contender or CVA Scout? Derringer, as in Bond Arms. I'll look over that web site. _________________ ‘What’s the point of being a citizen if an illegal gets all the benefits’ |
| Thu Nov 30, 2023 6:21 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: South Seattle Joined: Thu May 2, 2013 Posts: 12475 Real Name: Steve
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It might be better to describe what you’re trying to accomplish, rather than ask a question half-way through your thought process.
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| Thu Nov 30, 2023 6:22 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Nampa, Idaho Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 19479 Real Name: Rick
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Website didn't work for me.
_________________ ‘What’s the point of being a citizen if an illegal gets all the benefits’ |
| Thu Nov 30, 2023 6:23 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Nampa, Idaho Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 19479 Real Name: Rick
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NWGunner wrote: It might be better to describe what you’re trying to accomplish, rather than ask a question half-way through your thought process. I did ask the question. Which cartridge has more of a kick? Which one has more of a slap or sting? Light weight with warp 6 speed or heavy weight that's slower than Friday night traffic in Seattle? _________________ ‘What’s the point of being a citizen if an illegal gets all the benefits’ |
| Thu Nov 30, 2023 6:26 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Lynnwood and at large Joined: Wed May 1, 2013 Posts: 21303 Real Name: Vick Lagina
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_________________ “Finding ‘common ground’ with the thinking of evil men is a fool’s errand” ~ Herschel Smith "The “A return to First Principles in a Republic is sometimes caused by simple virtues of a single man. His good example has such an influence that the good men strive to imitate him, and the wicked are ashamed to lead a life so contrary to his example. Before all else, be armed!” ~ Niccolo Machiavelli Láodòng zhèng zhūwèi zìyóu FJB |
| Thu Nov 30, 2023 6:29 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: South Seattle Joined: Thu May 2, 2013 Posts: 12475 Real Name: Steve
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AR15L wrote: NWGunner wrote: It might be better to describe what you’re trying to accomplish, rather than ask a question half-way through your thought process. I did ask the question. Which cartridge has more of a kick? Which one has more of a slap or sting? Light weight with warp 6 speed or heavy weight that's slower than Friday night traffic in Seattle? I didn’t say you didn’t ask a question, I suggested that you state what you’re trying to accomplish. Like, “is anyone aware of what the recoil differences in 9mm grain/weight on a Bond Arms Derringer, or is the barrel too short for a significant difference? Just trying to help… |
| Thu Nov 30, 2023 6:35 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Nampa, Idaho Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 19479 Real Name: Rick
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NWGunner wrote: AR15L wrote: NWGunner wrote: It might be better to describe what you’re trying to accomplish, rather than ask a question half-way through your thought process. I did ask the question. Which cartridge has more of a kick? Which one has more of a slap or sting? Light weight with warp 6 speed or heavy weight that's slower than Friday night traffic in Seattle? I didn’t say you didn’t ask a question, I suggested that you state what you’re trying to accomplish. Like, “is anyone aware of what the recoil differences in 9mm grain/weight on a Bond Arms Derringer, or is the barrel too short for a significant difference? Just trying to help… Gotcha. _________________ ‘What’s the point of being a citizen if an illegal gets all the benefits’ |
| Thu Nov 30, 2023 6:39 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Lynnwood and at large Joined: Wed May 1, 2013 Posts: 21303 Real Name: Vick Lagina
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Cavillous.
_________________ “Finding ‘common ground’ with the thinking of evil men is a fool’s errand” ~ Herschel Smith "The “A return to First Principles in a Republic is sometimes caused by simple virtues of a single man. His good example has such an influence that the good men strive to imitate him, and the wicked are ashamed to lead a life so contrary to his example. Before all else, be armed!” ~ Niccolo Machiavelli Láodòng zhèng zhūwèi zìyóu FJB |
| Thu Nov 30, 2023 6:45 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: South Seattle Joined: Thu May 2, 2013 Posts: 12475 Real Name: Steve
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jukk0u wrote: Cavillous. Your opinion |
| Thu Nov 30, 2023 6:48 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: AZ Joined: Fri Aug 17, 2018 Posts: 6799
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My wife has very tender hands and a scar tissue on her right thenar space.
So, she says shooting 9mm and .22 handguns hurts her evenly. That’s recoil-wise. Penetration-wise, I believe those two loads mentioned in the OP would penetrate about the same depth, if projectiles are the same kind/type; e.g., lead-core round nose FMJ. P.S.: I had C for Physics in “High”-school.  You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post. _________________ FPC member GOA member Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges. |
| Thu Nov 30, 2023 7:47 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Nampa, Idaho Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 19479 Real Name: Rick
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Alrighty then...
I fixed the title of the thread and the definition of what I was looking for. RECOIL was the word I was going after. (Yes, I'm a dummy, as you all know) _________________ ‘What’s the point of being a citizen if an illegal gets all the benefits’ |
| Fri Dec 01, 2023 5:50 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Lake Stevens Joined: Fri Jan 3, 2014 Posts: 6225 Real Name: Paris
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Generally, the heavier is going to kick more. I know that is the case for rifle.
With stubbies, something in low recoil or less powder will always make things better. Sent from my SM-G991U using Tapatalk _________________ Paris You can never be too prepared. Consider the ant thou sluggard. Proverbs 27:12 -- “A prudent person foresees the danger ahead and takes precautions. The simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences.” Need Long term Food or Survival Supplies, I have extras, Grab the Supplies_Available.pdf. Prices Quoted are close to my actual cost: https://backupcomputing.workplace.datto.com/filelink/6af06-883bf7e-31d469c0e1-2 Link corrected 1/30/2021. The prudent Wagunner trains and prepares to defend themselves and their families, friends, and neighbors. They also are prepared to feed, shelter, and provide aid as well. Danger is coming and may already be here, how prepared are you? Click the link above for lots of good info to get started. |
| Fri Dec 01, 2023 9:25 am |
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Site Supporter Location: Lynnwood and at large Joined: Wed May 1, 2013 Posts: 21303 Real Name: Vick Lagina
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I toyed with the recoil calculator for a while last night. While bullet weight (bw) does affect the recoil impulse, in a given caliber the difference didn't seem to be great. (although reading "recoil impulse 7.2lbs", or that a difference between two loads is 1/2lb, is difficult to relate what that might feel like.)
_________________ “Finding ‘common ground’ with the thinking of evil men is a fool’s errand” ~ Herschel Smith "The “A return to First Principles in a Republic is sometimes caused by simple virtues of a single man. His good example has such an influence that the good men strive to imitate him, and the wicked are ashamed to lead a life so contrary to his example. Before all else, be armed!” ~ Niccolo Machiavelli Láodòng zhèng zhūwèi zìyóu FJB |
| Fri Dec 01, 2023 9:28 am |
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