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Blaze.45 wrote:
For the SS media guys out there... I'm looking for recommendations on a tumbler, currently thinking Frankford Arsenal 7L. Thoughts?

We've run the Thumler's and Frankford Arsenal... We prefer the one that you are leaning towards.
The easy opening is the clincher for us.

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PMB wrote:
Blaze.45 wrote:
For the SS media guys out there... I'm looking for recommendations on a tumbler, currently thinking Frankford Arsenal 7L. Thoughts?

We've run the Thumler's and Frankford Arsenal... We prefer the one that you are leaning towards.
The easy opening is the clincher for us.


I also have the Frankfort and like it. I think I got it on sale for 120. Maybe amazon? Keep your eye out. You won’t be disappointed.

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PMB wrote:
Blaze.45 wrote:
For the SS media guys out there... I'm looking for recommendations on a tumbler, currently thinking Frankford Arsenal 7L. Thoughts?

We've run the Thumler's and Frankford Arsenal... We prefer the one that you are leaning towards.
The easy opening is the clincher for us.

Interesting.

Does the Frankford come with actual screens? All the pictures I could find it had large strainer ends, but those let water and pins thru. What I am wondering is how do you separate the water from the pins? Other than that one thing I liked the way it was setup and being able to rinse straight thru it seems pretty darn handy. Size wise it seems equal to the Thumler model B.

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lamrith wrote:
Interesting.

Does the Frankford come with actual screens? All the pictures I could find it had large strainer ends, but those let water and pins thru. What I am wondering is how do you separate the water from the pins? Other than that one thing I liked the way it was setup and being able to rinse straight thru it seems pretty darn handy. Size wise it seems equal to the Thumler model B.

It has the plastic screens for draining the water out and rinsing it. During the tumbling operation the opening in the ends is covered by a clear plastic "window".
The downside of the big holes in the screen is that tipping it all the way over lets pins fall out. I have a dedicated colander (fine mesh wire) to drain the water out, and separate the pins in an RCBS media separator.

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PMB wrote:
lamrith wrote:
Interesting.

Does the Frankford come with actual screens? All the pictures I could find it had large strainer ends, but those let water and pins thru. What I am wondering is how do you separate the water from the pins? Other than that one thing I liked the way it was setup and being able to rinse straight thru it seems pretty darn handy. Size wise it seems equal to the Thumler model B.

It has the plastic screens for draining the water out and rinsing it. During the tumbling operation the opening in the ends is covered by a clear plastic "window".
The downside of the big holes in the screen is that tipping it all the way over lets pins fall out. I have a dedicated colander (fine mesh wire) to drain the water out, and separate the pins in an RCBS media separator.

Yeah that is what I was afraid of with those large strainer ends. No way they are holding pins back. Unfortunate as being able to stand the drum up and just flush thru with water would aid/speed up rinsing quite a bit.

Might be something one could fabricate up though...

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You're on to something. The wet tumbler comes with 2 of the strainer ends, so you'd think that they could be used that way.
Here was a demo of the pins falling during the rinse.
viewtopic.php?f=74&t=79341&p=783350&r#p783350
I didn't say it in that post, but we usually triple rinse.

I am not sure that simply running water through the cleaned brass would work though... Seems like it might need a little bit of the shake shake shakey action to empty and rinse the insides of the cases.

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PMB wrote:
You're on to something. The wet tumbler comes with 2 of the strainer ends, so you'd think that they could be used that way.
Here was a demo of the pins falling during the rinse.
http://waguns.org/viewtopic.php?f=74&t= ... &r#p783350
I didn't say it in that post, but we usually triple rinse.

I am not sure that simply running water through the cleaned brass would work though... Seems like it might need a little bit of the shake shake shakey action to empty and rinse the insides of the cases.


Yes they show on their advertisements using both strainers and flushing thru. I agree there needs to be some shakey shakey to get things rinsed well. With my Thumler setup I rinse 2x with a mix by hand between each. It would be nice to not have to mix/stir by hand to get water flushed thru everywhere and I think the Frankford could make that happen. Tipping the drum over and flushing from both sides might do the trick. The problem is the pins and containing them. I will bring my thumler drum setup and some supplies and we can compare notes at the Sunday gathering..

How is "noise" with the frankford compared to the Thumler? Thumler is not loud, but also do not think I would want to be sitting in a room with it running while trying to watch tv or listen to anything. Or is that why you have 2 and they are always running? Ohhh better not let princess or Balrog find out you are using brass cleaning as an excuse to tune them out!
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So there is a trick. After tumbling take off one cap, rinse brass and pins until water is clean. fill up, pour out slowly, repeat. Put screen on, fill with water, dump into 5 gallon bucket shaking and twisting. After a few times of this most pins will be out. I then pore onto a towel and let dry or whatever your preferred method is. Then dump into rotary separator. This way I usually end up with 20 or 30 pins.

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I think y'all are making this too difficult.

Here's how I do it . . . and it evolved a bit in the course of the thread below, so don't quit early. :bigsmile:
Wet Tumbling - Video of my process

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I think y'all are making this too difficult.

Here's how I do it . . . and it evolved a bit in the course of the thread below, so don't quit early. :bigsmile:
Wet Tumbling - Video of my process

Yeah you and I use the same format. I am thinking some minor DIY on the frankford could cut some time and handling off even the process we use. I will see once I have hands on a frankford drum on sunday. Might send PMB home with some arts and crafts supplies and a homework assignment.

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Used a set of RCBS competition dies today to reload .308. What a WORLD of difference it is from the standard dies. The sizing die blew through the usually tough LC brass and setting up the seating die was so easy to make precise adjustment. (My friend's) Money well spent!

loaded about 100 rounds.
decapped and sized another 350
and decapped and sized about 400 rounds of .45acp.
very productive day once the barn heated up enough that the scale started working right. Brrrr.

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I had some extra 6” pipe and an end cap at work so I made another tumbling drum. Little bit bigger than my first one and no exposed screws on the inside. The zinc plated hardware was discoloring the brass. Also replaced the bolt in the test plug cap with stainless.

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Reloaded 97 rounds of 38 special: 148 gr coated dewc, 3.8 grs of HP-38, Remington primers, range brass. Testing HP-38 to see how it performs vs Titegroup.

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This week has seen a lot of reloading as I've had the week off.

Found the magic bullet/powder combo for my Marlin 1894 .44 magnum. The answer was .431 lead bullets! Holes through holes...so I loaded 150 of them specifically for that rifle w/H-110 (the copper jacketed 44 mags will see duty with the Ruger 44 Carbine and Dan Wesson)

Loaded 100 x .250-3000 rifle rounds for the Savage 99. 100 gr boolits. These chrono at 2650 fps.
I have another 100 coming in 87 gr that should push them to over 3,000 fps. (W748 powder)

Loaded 54 rds of -30-06 w/150 gr boolits for target practice. (W-760 powder)

And today, I'll start on 1000 x 62 gr .223 that should last us 3 months. (BLC-2 for the first 100 rds, then I gotta go get some powder. Most likely my stand by CFE-223)


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These bullets work great in the Ruger .44 mag Carbine (with its finicky gas port system), the 1894 Marlin 44 mag and the Dan Wesson 44 mag.
Nice to finally find something that works on all 3 platforms accurately.

This is my "go foward" bullet. until I buy a mold and cast my own.
240 gr Hi-Tek coating Missouri Bullet in front of 23.5 gr of H-110.

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