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Cool! The waxed stuff should go many moons.

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lamrith wrote:
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I assume he's referring to the Southern Shine media. As far as I know they're only on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/southernshinetumblers/

Five pounds shipped for $23.50, so it's pretty cheap.

Just placed an order for some of this, we will see how it goes.


Looking forward to some review action Larry. Let's get cracking bud

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PMB wrote:
lamrith wrote:
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I assume he's referring to the Southern Shine media. As far as I know they're only on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/southernshinetumblers/

Five pounds shipped for $23.50, so it's pretty cheap.

Just placed an order for some of this, we will see how it goes.


Looking forward to some review action Larry. Let's get cracking bud

God lord, impatient bunch around here. Ease up on the wet tumbling newby would yah? :bruce:
I don't have much real experience with this sort of tumbling to offer an informed opinion. Mr Madpick also has some of the media (We split 10# batch for $38.50 total) and I look forward to his review from a more experienced user. For now here is my thoughts.

  • PRO - The media is cheap and buying it benefits a sick little girl, so the penny pinching parent factor is strong.
  • PRO - The media seems to clean well. I ran a bunch of 9mm and 45acp brass with it (my rifle brass is already cleaned with SS using madpicks .047x.5" SS media). I have a 1/2 speed thumler so had to let it run twice as long to get it clean, that holds true for this media and the nor standard pin media.
    corn media vs SS
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    Clean inside and out
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  • CON - Media is cumbersome to work with compared to std pin SS media.
    • This media is so fine and light that the molecular cohesion of water will make it stick to things.
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    • Being so fine also makes it difficult to drain off water after tumbling and after rinsing. If you are not super careful some ends up down the drain. This was in the sink when I tried to drain to quickly.
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So that is my inexperienced thoughts on it. I am using some .062x.50" pin media now and fine it easier to work with. No real decision on which cleans better.


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lamrith wrote:
God lord, impatient bunch around here. Ease up on the wet tumbling newby would yah? :bruce:
I was just kidding around sir.
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CON - Media is cumbersome to work with compared to std pin SS media.
This media is so fine and light that the molecular cohesion of water will make it stick to things.

The pins stick in the same way... Sure sucks when gravity overcomes that H2O magnetic thing. (For those who haven't dug the physics of it, H20 is a magnet due to the O's sticking to one side of the H and the electron sharing. Cool stuff.)
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Being so fine also makes it difficult to drain off water after tumbling and after rinsing. If you are not super careful some ends up down the drain. This was in the sink when I tried to drain to quickly.
I've gone to draining the water into a 3 gallon aluminum pot, then pouring most of the water out of it, rinsing once or twice, transfering brass to separator, using a strong magnet to pick up the pins in the bottom of the clean-rinsed aluminum pan. (I use aluminum because of the step with the magnet. Non-magnetic SS would work well too, but rare in cooking pots and pans.)
Regarding the rinsing of SS tumbling media : I'm like a hungry chickenhawk over a freshly hatched batch of Speckled Sussex chicks... Nothing is going to get away.
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So that is my inexperienced thoughts on it. I am using some .062x.50" pin media now and fine it easier to work with. No real decision on which cleans better.
I thank you kindly sir. My boys were about to order some pins, thought I'd check with you guys first.

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PMB wrote:
For those who haven't dug the physics of it, H20 is a magnet . . . .


That's funny . . . "physics" and "H-twenty" in the same sentence. :facepalm2:

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For those who haven't dug the physics of it, H20 is a magnet . . . .

That's funny . . . "physics" and "H-twenty" in the same sentence. :facepalm2:

Why? Are you thinking chemistry? Chemistry is Physics lite, honey.

ETA H20 H2O be darned... hahaha Sorry, I'm shape oriented.

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PMB wrote:
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God lord, impatient bunch around here. Ease up on the wet tumbling newby would yah? :bruce:
I was just kidding around sir.

So was I, jeeeesh so sensitive. :cheers2: :ROFLMAO:

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CON - Media is cumbersome to work with compared to std pin SS media.
This media is so fine and light that the molecular cohesion of water will make it stick to things.

The pins stick in the same way... Sure sucks when gravity overcomes that H2O magnetic thing. (For those who haven't dug the physics of it, H20 is a magnet due to the O's sticking to one side of the H and the electron sharing. Cool stuff.)

Actually I can tell you definitively the pins (ones I am using now) stick nothing like this granular media, it is night and day difference. If you look at the picture of my thumler canister all the shine on the left is media that is stuck in the crease between liner and gasket. It even sticks to the gasket. The pins never stuck there. It is just as bad or worse once in the media separator trying to get the media back into the tumbler. The pins will slide right back out of the separator pretty good, they have enough mass to overcome the cohesion and flow. the granular media does not flow, it clumps up, and also retains allot more water just because of the shape/size.

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Being so fine also makes it difficult to drain off water after tumbling and after rinsing. If you are not super careful some ends up down the drain. This was in the sink when I tried to drain to quickly.
I've gone to draining the water into a 3 gallon aluminum pot, then pouring most of the water out of it, rinsing once or twice, transferring brass to separator, using a strong magnet to pick up the pins in the bottom of the clean-rinsed aluminum pan. (I use aluminum because of the step with the magnet. Non-magnetic SS would work well too, but rare in cooking pots and pans.)
Regarding the rinsing of SS tumbling media : I'm like a hungry chickenhawk over a freshly hatched batch of Speckled Sussex chicks... Nothing is going to get away.

Which tumbler do you have? because of the granular media I have come up with a new setup to make draining water and rinsing super easy without losing media. I will write it up and share video sometime in the next few days.

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So that is my inexperienced thoughts on it. I am using some .062x.50" pin media now and fine it easier to work with. No real decision on which cleans better.
I thank you kindly sir. My boys were about to order some pins, thought I'd check with you guys first.

I would say Grab you some pins, they are more $, but at this point the pins are just easier to work with imho. I have not tried to see if this granular stuff is magnetic. That might make it lot easier to work with.

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lamrith wrote:
Actually I can tell you definitively the pins (ones I am using now) stick nothing like this granular media, it is night and day difference.

Good to know. I'll measure my pins and see whether I should have pins envy compared to you and Mr MadPick. I think mine are smaller, if the pic MadPick sent me is to scale.
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Which tumbler do you have?

I mostly use the FA but have a Thumlers also. Since the FA arrived I've only used the Thumlers once to rush a batch through at the same time the other was running. The Thumlers is easier to empty because of it's straight case design... The bottleneck case of the FA caused me to twitch when dumping the washed brass and media a few times, until I switched to the aluminum pan intermediary.
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because of the granular media I have come up with a new setup to make draining water and rinsing super easy without losing media. I will write it up and share video sometime in the next few days.
What's the hold up? Let's get cracking bud.

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PMB wrote:
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Actually I can tell you definitively the pins (ones I am using now) stick nothing like this granular media, it is night and day difference.

Good to know. I'll measure my pins and see whether I should have pins envy compared to you and Mr MadPick. I think mine are smaller, if the pic MadPick sent me is to scale.

Well the problem is that mr madpick has 3 different SS media now (could be more) so who knows what he sent you a picture of. No No, dopn't show us. I do not think any of us want to see what kind of pictures you two are sharing, keep that to yourselves. There are some things you just cannot unsee no matter how much bleach you use... :throwup:

Steve has this granular stuff (Had it weeks and not even tried using it yet, talk about SLACKER!), he has the common .047x.50 and he has the .061x.5 The .061 I am using is actually his that he was having me try as a comparison after our discussions and issue I had using the granular. I have not used the .047 other than a few times when he showed me how the wet tumbling setup works.

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What's the hold up? Let's get cracking bud.

Easy now or no sharing of modifications for you! I have to make sure it looks good, and it takes a a LONG time to make anything I do look good.

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No argument about any of that except the pin length. The smaller pins I have are 0.047" x 0.255" (not 0.5").

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Some interesting "science" in here. Just because water is polar, does not make it magnetic, and it 100% is not magnetic. Water does have attractive force between water molecules, cohesion. Also it will tend to stick to surfaces, adhesion. The combination of adhesion and cohesion is what is sticking your pins to the brass, rubber and whatever else you're using in your wet tumbling process.

My pins are small, and also adhere to both the brass and the rubber liner of my tumbler when wet

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steve, great video of how you do it.
I find If I completely rinse the brass while its in the barrel I save a step of cleaning/rinsing my barrel out and don't leave contaminants in the barrel.
I am sure you and others that use the dehydraters have had great results that way and maybe I am over thinking the fact of possible electrical shorts or shocks but I use a regular tumbler with corn cob and tumble for 15 minutes. then remove the cases from the media.
as long as you don't spill the corn cob, I never had to add to it and have yet to change my media out in the last 3 years.
just a thought


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SixPointEight wrote:
Some interesting "science" in here. Just because water is polar, does not make it magnetic, and it 100% is not magnetic. Water does have attractive force between water molecules, cohesion. Also it will tend to stick to surfaces, adhesion. The combination of adhesion and cohesion is what is sticking your pins to the brass, rubber and whatever else you're using in your wet tumbling process.
My pins are small, and also adhere to both the brass and the rubber liner of my tumbler when wet

If my use of the word magnetic irritated or confused anyone else, here is a better discussion of it.
http://www.physicscentral.com/experimen ... 0210095446
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So some impatient farm dweller needs (more like demands today or else face the wrath of Balrog) pictures and video on how to drain water from his thumler tumbler without losing all his media. Rather than subject myself to such possible torture, I will share what knowledge I can in hopes to get a stay of execution....
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I just finally started using a SS wet tumbling setup 3 weeks ago after our Infamous Cake eater showed me his setup a few months back. As can be seen from the video Madpick posted starting this thread, he has a pretty efficient system worked out.

When I got my Thumler 3 weeks ago I decided to try the Southern Shine media (I am a cheap SOB and 1/2 price was to hard to ignore)

I setup and did a long overnight run of 9mm brass with the new setup. Upon opening the canister in the morning I realized this new media might be a bit difficult to work with as the entire lip of the liner had media stuck to it due to molecular cohesion and adhesion of the water. This media is so small and light that it is like sand and flows everywhere with water as was seen in my earlier post. draining the water had to be done slowly or a bunch of the media ended up in sink/drain.
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I knew kitchen strainers were not fine enough mesh so I decided to make my own strainer. I found a place to buy replacement Model B lids and bought one, once it landed I took my old one and got to work.

Pardon the lame video and hackjob fabrication. I have a face for radio, a voice for silent movies, metal shop was 33yrs ago and not my strongsuit...


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Thanks for the review. :thumbsup2:

Glad no one knows I have a bag of the stuff sitting unused on my bench. :bigsmile:

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