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February 2, at 9:00 am Discuss House bill 1387/1122
February 2, at 9:00 am Discuss House bill 1387/1122
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golddigger14s
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Location: Faxon, OK Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2011 Posts: 17822
Real Name: Chuck
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Meet at Hawks Prairie Restaurant at 9 am Meet at the restaurant and talk things over. Discuss the bills and then attend the hearing and maybe even speak out against them. Please ask questions and let us discuss this. There should be a link or cut and paste to send a pre written email against these, to the committee. On Thursday, February 2, at 1:30pm, the House Judiciary Committee is scheduled to hear House Bill 1387 and House Bill 1122. NRA members and Second Amendment supporters are encouraged to attend this hearing and voice their opposition to these radical anti-gun bills.House Bill 1387 http://app.leg.wa.gov/billsummary?BillN ... &Year=2017 would impose a registration-licensing system for “assault weapons” and “large-capacity magazines” (LCM). Every person who possesses, transports, manufactures, purchases or sells an “assault weapon” or LCM must have an annual state-issued license, with an updated license required every time there is a change in possession of the gun or LCM. The licensing requirement has a delay period (until 2020) before it applies to persons who currently possess such items, but these persons would be prohibited from selling or transferring the gun or LCM to anyone other than a licensed dealer, a gunsmith, or to law enforcement for permanent relinquishment. HB 1387 also mandates that relinquished guns and LCMs “must be destroyed.” (House Bill 1387 doesn’t stop there either. For more information about HB 1387 and other anti-gun bills in the Washington Legislature, refer to our previous NRA-ILA alert.) House Bill 1122 http://app.leg.wa.gov/billsummary?BillN ... &Year=2017 is vaguely written legislation that could potentially subject law-abiding gun owners to gross misdemeanor penalties, including huge fees and potential imprisonment, if they don’t lock their firearms up and render them useless for any self-defense scenario. This proposal has little to do with making children safer and everything to do with making it safer to be a criminal. HB 1122 would be virtually unenforceable and in addition to these concerns, there are also safety concerns to consider. The mandatory use of a locking device can greatly diminish reaction times under duress. Being forced to fumble with a lock and key in a self-defense situation could mean the difference between life and death. At the end of the day, it comes down to the fact that all households are different and have different needs. This reckless bill encompasses every home. This one-size fits all approach is a solution to a non-existent problem and is both over-reaching and not based on fact. Washington: Contact Committee Members in Opposition to Restrictive Anti-Gun Legislation, HB 1387 and HB 1122 Contact members of the House Judiciary Committee and urge them to oppose these bill when they come up for a vote. Take Action https://act.nraila.org/composeletters.aspx?AlertID=1439
_________________ "The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." Thomas Jefferson "Evil often triumphs, but never conquers." Joseph Roux
Last edited by golddigger14s on Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:59 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:44 pm |
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leadcounsel
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Putting this on my calendar with intention on going. Thanks.
_________________ I defend the 2A. US Army Combat Veteran and Paratrooper: OIF Veteran. BSM and MSM recipient. NRA Lifetime. Entertainment purposes only. I'm a lawyer, but have not offered you legal advice.
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Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:48 pm |
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golddigger14s
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Location: Faxon, OK Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2011 Posts: 17822
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leadcounsel wrote: Putting this on my calendar with intention on going. Thanks. Coming to the breakfast? Last meeting at Capitol proved a VERY early arrival to get a parking spot.
_________________ "The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." Thomas Jefferson "Evil often triumphs, but never conquers." Joseph Roux
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Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:08 pm |
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kf7mjf
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Location: Olympia Joined: Sat Oct 29, 2011 Posts: 16044
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I'll be going. If nothing else so the camo and bunker crowd has less chance of speaking.
_________________ "I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said." - William Buckley, Jr.
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Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:10 pm |
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reginald_burrito
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Location: Not Seattle Joined: Wed Nov 2, 2016 Posts: 698
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I'm in. I don't want this state (or any state, really) to end up with worse laws than the one I just left.
I've marked my calendar and tomorrow I'll free up that day. Can you let us know a bit about what to expect at such a hearing?
_________________ Cognitive dissonance kills
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Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:14 pm |
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EmbraceTheEdge
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Location: Camano Island Joined: Mon Jan 23, 2017 Posts: 378
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I'm going to see. It's all about getting off of work and figuring out my dog situation (he just had knee surgery). It's about a two and half hour drive for me so I doubt I'd be able to make the 9:00am. I should know more early next week. I'd really like to go though.
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Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:27 pm |
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golddigger14s
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Location: Faxon, OK Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2011 Posts: 17822
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reginald_burrito wrote: I'm in. I don't want this state (or any state, really) to end up with worse laws than the one I just left.
I've marked my calendar and tomorrow I'll free up that day. Can you let us know a bit about what to expect at such a hearing? Get there EARLY if you want parking. That's why meeting for breakfast is important to come up with a game plan, and talking points.
_________________ "The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." Thomas Jefferson "Evil often triumphs, but never conquers." Joseph Roux
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Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:03 pm |
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waglocker
Location: Ohio Joined: Fri Nov 9, 2012 Posts: 3924
Real Name: Sean
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I will try to be at the hearing. Depends on what Uncle Sam has me doing that day.
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Fri Jan 27, 2017 6:19 am |
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Massivedesign
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Location: Olympia, WA Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 Posts: 38310
Real Name: Dan
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I plan on being there! Not at breakfast, but at the Capitol.
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Fri Jan 27, 2017 6:26 am |
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Breck
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Location: NW Montana Joined: Thu Dec 10, 2015 Posts: 1764
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I'll join you for breakfast. If anyone in the Kent/Covington/Auburn area wants to carpool with me, I'm happy to drive. My Explorer has two rows of back seats.
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Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:30 pm |
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leadcounsel
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I can't commit to breakfast, but will be at the hearing.
I will try to come to breakfast, but I'm not a morning person. I'm grouchy. lol.
As for talking points, we can start a new thread for talking points. That's probably frankly more productive or at least as productive. Then everyone can have a printout, and time to mull over points and discuss here. The day of is probably not as productive.
_________________ I defend the 2A. US Army Combat Veteran and Paratrooper: OIF Veteran. BSM and MSM recipient. NRA Lifetime. Entertainment purposes only. I'm a lawyer, but have not offered you legal advice.
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Sun Jan 29, 2017 4:44 pm |
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kellybachand
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Location: Kent Joined: Sat Mar 2, 2013 Posts: 741
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I thought I'd be able to flex my schedule this week, but my boss is coming into town and I'm going to be working late on Thursday. That being said, I still wanted to contribute to the discussion helpfully. I wandered over to this page https://www.quandl.com/data/FBI/WEAPONS11-US-Murders-by-Weapon-Type and used it to assemble some helpful charts. This is the same data I used to make my "4x the murder w/blunt objects and 2x4s, BAN 2x4s!" sign. Please note that I'm comparing murders with blunt objects, personal objects, knives, and rifles. I'm generously assuming that every rifle used is one that would be banned under the proposed AWB. The point I wanted to make is that if it is actually about reducing crime, we'd carefully target kitchen knives, then hands and feet, then blunt objects, before finally considering long guns of any kind. Attached here is an excel file with the data, a link to the source, and a few helpful charts. If you think you can use these to highlight the fact that is obviously isn't addressing any spikes in crime, then please print them or use them however you can! It's noteworthy that the murders with rifles also drops year after year even during years with record sales of the rifles they want to ban! If this doesn't make sense or you'd like to use it, but need help describing what the graphs show please let me know and we can discuss it before Thursday! Best,
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Mon Jan 30, 2017 7:53 pm |
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golddigger14s
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Location: Faxon, OK Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2011 Posts: 17822
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For those that can make the breakfast, team up with somebody on the bill.I have a bunch $10 off coupons for over $25. Disregard the coupons are for the casino at 8318, we eat at 8306. Keely from the NRA-ILA might join us for breakfast.
_________________ "The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." Thomas Jefferson "Evil often triumphs, but never conquers." Joseph Roux
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Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:19 pm |
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quantsuff
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Location: central wa Joined: Mon Mar 21, 2011 Posts: 3555
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For those not able to make the hearing you can comment electronically at https://app.leg.wa.gov/pbc/bill//1387. Note: comments are *not* anonymous, if that is an issue for you. However, I see no mechanism on the page to verify the information provided.
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Tue Jan 31, 2017 11:46 am |
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greeneyedgoon
Location: Olympia Joined: Fri Sep 9, 2016 Posts: 51
Real Name: Matthew
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won't be at breakfast, but i only live 2 mins from the capital, I plan on attending the hearing. Any particular meetup spot?
edit, made my comment on their page, but i'm still going to the hearing.
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Tue Jan 31, 2017 4:34 pm |
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