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What's the difference between Alloway and F&F?
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Dave Workman
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Joined: Tue Mar 22, 2011 Posts: 1432 Location: Ahead of the pack
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 What's the difference between Alloway and F&F?
What’s the difference between Roy Alloway and Fast & Furious? Retired Bremerton Police Detective Roy Alloway illegally sold hundreds of firearms – possibly putting many guns into the wrong hands – and he’s going to spend two years in a federal prison. http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-in-s ... st-furious
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| Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:28 pm |
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delliottg
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Joined: Wed Mar 16, 2011 Posts: 788 Location: Duvall
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 Re: What's the difference between Alloway and F&F?
At what point do you attract attention from the ATF? Did he attract them because he was buying (which is what the article implies), or because he was selling them, which would make the most sense?
I've been accumulating firearms since my teens, but I've sold very few, mostly just the ones I didn't particularly care for, or never actually shot. It would seem like the sales would be when they might take notice, not the purchasing of them.
I'm not familiar with the particulars of this case, so maybe I'm missing something? I'm by no means condoning his sales of hundreds of firearms without a license, I'm just curious about where the line is, and what defines that line. The buying of, or the selling of, a "large" number of firearms? How many is "a large number"?
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| Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:12 pm |
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Massivedesign
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Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 Posts: 15547 Location: Olympia, WA
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 Re: What's the difference between Alloway and F&F?
The line is crossed when you are selling firearms as an income generator. Acting as a business buying and selling guns is what is illegal. Rotating some of your collection isn't. Alloway was acting as a business when he was flipping guns.
_________________Dan aka massivedesign MadPick wrote: It's interesting that our president trusts North Korea with nukes, but doesn't trust me with a 30-round magazine.
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| Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:54 pm |
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Old Jim
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Joined: Mon Aug 22, 2011 Posts: 1444 Location: Port Orchard
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 Re: What's the difference between Alloway and F&F?
Roy was in partnership with another cop. Roy sold his interest to his partner when he got the first warning. He continued to buy guns as his name was still on the FFL until time to renew. He bought at dealer price and resold as a private citizen. Bad JUJU.
_________________ If you want my guns, come and get them. I came into this world kicking and screaming, covered with someone else's blood and I don't mind leaving the same way.
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| Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:29 pm |
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deadshot2
Joined: Fri Jul 22, 2011 Posts: 3468 Location: NW Quadrant WA State
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 Re: What's the difference between Alloway and F&F?
Why bother asking what the difference is. It's simple. A government agency can do what they want and if caught, keep enough smoke in the air that the administration changes hands and their problems go away.
_________________ "Yes, making mock o' uniforms that guard you while you sleep" - Rudyard Kipling
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