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What Are ‘Common Sense Gun Laws’ And Would They Pass 2A Muster?

Country music couple Tim McGraw and Faith Hill are, no pun intended, under fire on social media for remarks that have appeared in several publications, including Rolling Stone, in which McGraw reportedly stated “there is some common sense that's necessary when it comes to gun control.”

http://libertyparkpress.com/common-sens ... 2a-muster/


Gun control group sues Trump admin. over NRA ‘influence’

A gun control lobbying group has filed a lawsuit against the Trump administration for allegedly “failing to disclose documents” revealing what influence a gun rights organization has had in influencing President Donald Trump’s “views towards gun policies.”

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Fri Nov 10, 2017 11:26 am
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no such thing

We need ask these retards: Why is it so important to keep guns out of the hands of criminals or crazy people?

If they are dangerous, we should be locking them up, not the tools.

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"common sense gun laws" are a contradiction in terms.

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I guess I am an outsider when it comes to my views on gun laws. I believe in background checks but also believe in prosecuting those who lie on the paperwork involved. I also believe that better record keeping on those who are are restricted due to DV or Mental Health issues.

Recent events have shown that the shooters slipped through current regulations due to crappy reporting and national database maintenance.

I also think that a common sense regulation would be national concealed carry permits on a Shall Issue basis. Use the same rational as with Driver's licenses. If you know the traffic laws, or in this case the unified national regulations, you get a permit (after background check of course). Laws would be the same from Coast to Coast so one doesn't need to have a smartphone app with GPS in order to know whether they are carrying legally or not.

Common sense in my mind would be to stop penalizing those who are law abiding citizens and start locking up those who clearly demonstrate their scorn for the laws. Don't you just love reading about some loser being arrested for a serious crime and learn that he's a "frequent flyer" with the criminal courts. I recall one recently who was under 30 years old and already had 14 or 15 felonies in his "jacket". Clearly he wasn't locked up long enough after his 2nd or 3rd. If he was he couldn't have racked up the other 12-13 felonies until he was in his 50's or more.

Common Sense tells me that taking the people who illegally use firearms out of the public makes more sense than trying to take firearms away from people who don't illegally use them.

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I guess I am an outsider when it comes to my views on gun laws. I believe in background checks but also believe in prosecuting those who lie on the paperwork involved. I also believe that better record keeping on those who are are restricted due to DV or Mental Health issues.

Recent events have shown that the shooters slipped through current regulations due to crappy reporting and national database maintenance.

I also think that a common sense regulation would be national concealed carry permits on a Shall Issue basis. Use the same rational as with Driver's licenses. If you know the traffic laws, or in this case the unified national regulations, you get a permit (after background check of course). Laws would be the same from Coast to Coast so one doesn't need to have a smartphone app with GPS in order to know whether they are carrying legally or not.

Common sense in my mind would be to stop penalizing those who are law abiding citizens and start locking up those who clearly demonstrate their scorn for the laws. Don't you just love reading about some loser being arrested for a serious crime and learn that he's a "frequent flyer" with the criminal courts. I recall one recently who was under 30 years old and already had 14 or 15 felonies in his "jacket". Clearly he wasn't locked up long enough after his 2nd or 3rd. If he was he couldn't have racked up the other 12-13 felonies until he was in his 50's or more.

Common Sense tells me that taking the people who illegally use firearms out of the public makes more sense than trying to take firearms away from people who don't illegally use them.



Congrats. You actually offered your detailed answer to the original question.
Interesting reading.

HOW ABOKUT IT? Anyone else want to take a crack at this like Deadshot2???

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Fix the NICS system and make it publicly accessible.

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mcyclonegt wrote:
Fix the NICS system and make it publicly accessible.

Or scrap it altogether. I resent the fact that I have to receive permission from my government to exercise a natural right that the constitution expressly forbids government infringement upon. To the men who wrote the constitution, THAT would be common sense.


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mcyclonegt wrote:
Fix the NICS system and make it publicly accessible.

This.
Additionally, put the burden on the bad people. Identification for prohibited persons should be marked clearly that they can't possess a firearm. Access to a database to confirm validity of the ID. BOOM! Done!
For those that think it's unfair to label bad people, they can have the prohibited marking on their ID too, voluntarily. If enough of them do it the ID won't be seen as a scarlet letter of sorts.

Every time these leftist hoplophobes start dancing in the blood of a mass shooting, by a lone murderer, that isn't even a member of the NRA, they can't blame the NRA fast enough. The same leftist hoplophobes are the first to cry foul and gnash their teeth over those that "blame all of Islam" for one wacko that shouts aloha snackbar while slaughtering a mass of innocents. Hypocrisy.

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From a post of mine in another thread..............

This showed up in my FB Feed:

Prior to 1968, anyone could walk into a hardware store with cash and walk out with a gun, no questions asked. Yet massacres were exceedingly rare. So, instead of the “the easy availability of guns” being shrieked about, we need to ask ourselves: What has changed since then?

The question I always ask of my liberal friends is this, are we more liberal or more conservative than we were in 1968, in both society and fiscally? No one can argue that government isn’t bigger, or there aren’t more social programs or more regulations. Therefore the majority of the issues and problems that beset our country are because of liberalism.

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Guns4Liberty wrote:
mcyclonegt wrote:
Fix the NICS system and make it publicly accessible.

Or scrap it altogether. I resent the fact that I have to receive permission from my government to exercise a natural right that the constitution expressly forbids government infringement upon. To the men who wrote the constitution, THAT would be common sense.


I would completely agree if we locked up criminals that can’t be trusted with guns. But since we have a government that turns loose scumbags that can’t be trusted background checks are a necessity. And since they are they should be available to the public so we don’t have to pay to exercise our rights.

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mcyclonegt wrote:
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mcyclonegt wrote:
Fix the NICS system and make it publicly accessible.

Or scrap it altogether. I resent the fact that I have to receive permission from my government to exercise a natural right that the constitution expressly forbids government infringement upon. To the men who wrote the constitution, THAT would be common sense.


I would completely agree if we locked up criminals that can’t be trusted with guns. But since we have a government that turns loose scumbags that can’t be trusted background checks are a necessity. And since they are they should be available to the public so we don’t have to pay to exercise our rights.

It seems to me that the criminal sentencing guidelines should be overhauled, then, so that we can eliminate the need for NICS. If we're going to reform something, let's reform the right thing, and reform it correctly. We would never put up with a NICS check before being allowed to fully exercise any of our other rights enshrined in the Bill of Rights, so why do we tolerate it for the 2A?


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danoh wrote:
From a post of mine in another thread..............

This showed up in my FB Feed:

Prior to 1968, anyone could walk into a hardware store with cash and walk out with a gun, no questions asked. Yet massacres were exceedingly rare. So, instead of the “the easy availability of guns” being shrieked about, we need to ask ourselves: What has changed since then?

The question I always ask of my liberal friends is this, are we more liberal or more conservative than we were in 1968, in both society and fiscally? No one can argue that government isn’t bigger, or there aren’t more social programs or more regulations. Therefore the majority of the issues and problems that beset our country are because of liberalism.



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I believe in background checks...

Common sense in my mind would be to stop penalizing those who are law abiding citizens .

So you're against punishing law abiding citizens but all for background checks? IMO every single background check I've had to undergo has been punishment, especially those I've had to pay for!

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Or scrap it altogether. I resent the fact that I have to receive permission from my government to exercise a natural right that the constitution expressly forbids government infringement upon. To the men who wrote the constitution, THAT would be common sense.
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Additionally, put the burden on the bad people. Identification for prohibited persons should be marked clearly that they can't possess a firearm.

It's called a prison uniform and why the f is anyone who is a "prohibited person" not behind bars?


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Banning "Gun Free Zones" would be a start. Criminals should never feel safe.


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gunblaster wrote:
deadshot2 wrote:
I believe in background checks...

Common sense in my mind would be to stop penalizing those who are law abiding citizens .

So you're against punishing law abiding citizens but all for background checks? IMO every single background check I've had to undergo has been punishment, especially those I've had to pay for!



I've been around and buying firearms since they were first required. I've never really seen the 5 minutes it takes to fill out a 4473 or the time it takes for the phone approval to be punishment. I do see laws that prevent me from owning magazines over 10 rounds (and being non-removable as well), having to purchase a firearm that has features I don't want just because some nimrod thinks we all have to buy off an approved firearm lost is punishment. Not granting anyone who applies and passes the background check a Concealed carry permit, because the local authority doesn't think they should have one is punishment. Banning certain firearms from private ownership just because of "looks" is punishment.

Background Checks, in this day and age, are merely common sense. Refine the system by plugging the holes (lack of proper reporting and including the nut-jobs that are currently overlooked) and background checks will accomplish more.

Oh yeah, don't forget locking up the "frequent fliers" once their lack of willingness to follow society's laws is shown.

As for the cost of a background check? Everyone pays one way or another. Buy a new or used firearm from a dealer? The cost is built into the price. Private sales are the only times the price is broken out as a separate charge. How about a tax on EVERYONE that would go to the cost of BGC's? That way the anti's would also be kicking in to support a system they demand.

Consider these stat's

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The most recent estimates by the Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) were released in 2014 and cover the period March 1, 1994 to Dec. 31, 2012. The BJS estimated 2.4 million checks were denied out of 148 million performed during that time, or 1.6%.


Wasn't perfect but in that 20 year period 2.4 million sales were quashed due to the purchaser's record.

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