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AR barrel cut wrong?

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:57 pm
by Yukonjon
Somebody fact check my thoughts make sure I’m not missing anything obvious. I’ll call rainier arms tomorrow but wanted a few ideas prior.

Changing barrels on my AR. Not new to this but first time seeing this.

I am pretty sure my barrel is cut wrong where the gas block goes. My gas tube extends way too far into the upper.

Rainier ultramatch .223 wylde barrel. Calls for rifle gas tube. That’s what I installed. You can see in the pictures how that one is too long but the mid length is too short.

Rifle tube measures at 15. Mid length tube is 11.5ish. Gas block sits flush and that shoulder measures about 11in to upper.

Is my barrel cut wrong?

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Re: AR barrel cut wrong?

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:29 pm
by dreadi
What’s the distance from the gas port to the barrel extension shoulder?


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Re: AR barrel cut wrong?

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:33 pm
by chevytruckman
Interesting


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Re: AR barrel cut wrong?

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:42 pm
by jukk0u
Does any of this help?

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Re: AR barrel cut wrong?

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:10 pm
by Yukonjon
dreadi wrote:What’s the distance from the gas port to the barrel extension shoulder?


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Re: AR barrel cut wrong?

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:12 pm
by Yukonjon
jukk0u wrote:Does any of this help?

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Thanks! I should have known those dimensions were somewhere. My rifle is 11.25 from gas shoulder to upper. Apparently this is about an inch short. Story of my life. WTF

Hopefully Rainer can help fix this.

Re: AR barrel cut wrong?

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:57 pm
by jukk0u
Tell us what RA says?

Re: AR barrel cut wrong?

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:34 am
by ViniVidivici
Yeah I'm interested as well. Going by the info Juk posted, and your measurements, it DOES sound like your barrel is made wrong.

Re: AR barrel cut wrong?

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:37 am
by jukk0u
I think I'd double check that the gas tube wasn't cut long.

Re: AR barrel cut wrong?

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:42 am
by chevytruckman
jukk0u wrote:I think I'd double check that the gas tube wasn't cut long.
This is what I was thinking…


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Re: AR barrel cut wrong?

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 9:34 am
by tannardog
There is also a rifle length gas tube that is longer than a standard rifle length tube. I cannot quote the dimensions but it is in use on Wilson Combat AR10 uppers, it is slightly longer than a milspec rifle length tube. I ran into this when putting an AR10 together. I ordered a rifle length tube and it was too short, found out my upper was "Wilson" spec.
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https://wilsoncombat.com/gas-tube-rifle ... ar-10.html

Rifle Length - AR-10/LR308/SR25
Mil-spec stainless tube
Length: 15.5"
Tube only
Does not fit AR-15 rifles

I wonder if you accidentally got one of these?

Re: AR barrel cut wrong?

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:28 pm
by Albroswift
White Oak Armament will make you one any length. Used them before I started making my own. Says backordered, might call and ask.

https://www.whiteoakarmament.com/white- ... -tube.html

Re: AR barrel cut wrong?

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:56 pm
by dreadi
jukk0u wrote:I think I'd double check that the gas tube wasn't cut long.
Me three


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Re: AR barrel cut wrong?

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:41 pm
by Yukonjon
Gas tube is correct for rifle. That what I was hoping for originally for the easy fix.

AR barrel cut wrong?

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 4:30 pm
by Yukonjon
tannardog wrote:There is also a rifle length gas tube that is longer than a standard rifle length tube. I cannot quote the dimensions but it is in use on Wilson Combat AR10 uppers, it is slightly longer than a milspec rifle length tube. I ran into this when putting an AR10 together. I ordered a rifle length tube and it was too short, found out my upper was "Wilson" spec.
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https://wilsoncombat.com/gas-tube-rifle ... ar-10.html

Rifle Length - AR-10/LR308/SR25
Mil-spec stainless tube
Length: 15.5"
Tube only
Does not fit AR-15 rifles

I wonder if you accidentally got one of these?
This led me in the right direction. I learned something new today.

There exists an “intermediate” gas tube length for this application. 13.25in between a rifle and mid length. WTF.

https://wilsoncombat.com/gas-tube-inter ... ength.html

I was doubting that Rainier Arms cut a barrel wrong on a premium barrel but that’s what I was thinking until now.