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cowboycraig
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Location: AZ Joined: Tue Feb 12, 2013 Posts: 460
Real Name: Craig
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I moved from WA to AZ a few months ago. Have a few guns in a safe in a house I still own in Seattle.
Wondering with the 594 crap, if a friend can go to a gun shop/ffl and have the guns sent to me using whatever magic FFL's use for this.
Thanks! Craig
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Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:30 am |
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MadPick
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Location: Renton, WA Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 Posts: 52030
Real Name: Steve
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Your 594 problem is when the friend goes to your house and touches the gun.
As far as mailing, you can mail a gun to yourself. Your friend cannot mail it to you without sending it to an FFL.
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Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:40 am |
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dreadi
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Location: Tacoma, Washington Joined: Fri Nov 21, 2014 Posts: 8351
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Madpick is right.
Or book a round trip flight for one day, a rental car, and get your stuff.
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Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:53 am |
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cowboycraig
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Location: AZ Joined: Tue Feb 12, 2013 Posts: 460
Real Name: Craig
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Thanks all. Think I will fly out sometime and go to a gun shop and have them send to another gun show near me here in AZ. I don't want to bother with guns on a plane. I know it isn't a big deal, but would rather never have to deal with it.
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Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:32 pm |
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GeekWithGuns
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Location: Round Rock, TX Joined: Thu Mar 5, 2015 Posts: 3899
Real Name: Dave
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Hi Craig. I recently looked into purchasing another forum members 5906. The FFL shipping charges were typically $75 for one way shipment to Texas. That cooled my jets pretty quick. You might want to look into typical charges. Other option is to make a road trip to pick up your guns. Just skip driving through any part of California on the way back to stay out of jail One road trip option might be I-84 past Hood River & Snake River then go through Salt Lake City & Moab. Take a scenic detour to Monument Valley then back into AZ. Probably a bit out of the way but definitely the scenic route, couple great National Parks in Utah, and lots of wide open road for hauling ass in gun friendly states. Plus there's great breweries in Hood River (Full Sail) and also Moab, Utah.
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Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:38 pm |
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Guntrader
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Location: Mukilteoish Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2011 Posts: 11595
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ATF sez: can ship them to yourself if moving to another state. Don't need to go through an FFL. Just like when hunting in another state. https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/may-per ... hold-goodsMay a person who is relocating out-of-State move firearms with other household goods? Yes. A person who lawfully possesses a firearm may transport or ship the firearm interstate when changing his or her State of residence. If using a moving company, the person must notify the mover that firearms are being transported.
Certain NFA firearms must have prior approval from ATF before such firearms may be moved interstate. He or she should also check State and local laws where relocating to ensure that movement of firearms into the new State does not violate any State law or local ordinance. [18 U.S.C. 922(a)(4) and 922(e); 27 CFR 478.28 and 478.31] Last Reviewed September 23, 2016 May a nonlicensee ship firearms interstate for his or her use in hunting or other lawful activity? Yes. A person may ship a firearm to or herself in care of another person in the State where he or she intends to hunt or engage in any other lawful activity. The package should be addressed to the owner “in the care of” the out–of–State resident. Upon reaching its destination, persons other than the owner may not open the package or take possession of the firearm.
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Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:47 pm |
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GeekWithGuns
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Location: Round Rock, TX Joined: Thu Mar 5, 2015 Posts: 3899
Real Name: Dave
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Cool great info GT was totally unaware of that
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Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:53 pm |
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Bennngeeee
Location: Tacoma Joined: Sun Jan 29, 2017 Posts: 95
Real Name: Ben
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A direct family member may ship them also. Father, mother, son, daughter.
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Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:22 pm |
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NWRed
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Location: Puyallup for now Joined: Tue May 24, 2011 Posts: 2099
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Good thing you boxed up all the Trust's stuff and left it with a listed Trustee of your Revokable WA Living Trust before you left town with a prepaid UPS shipping label attached to the box so they could send the trust's assets to you once you relocated to AZ. You know, to avoid all the 594 hoopla If it's actually your stuff, you're overthinking it, no FFL would be needed to take possession of your firearms. If its stuff you're buying from someone else in another state (WA) that would be a crime to ship it directly to you in AZ without using a FFL on the receiving end. If it was me, I'd just fly up, and either fly or drive in a rental car depending on how many firearms you're talking about. 2- 5 = fly. More then 5 = drive. Tacoma to Tuscon via Boise is 2 long days of driving. Not my favorite trip, but it's doable. Might be shorter cutting through central OR to the west side of NV and down, Ive never gone that way. Google maps offers 2 routes, neither goes through CA, both are 24hrs of driving
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Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:48 pm |
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PMB
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cowboycraig wrote: I moved from WA to AZ a few months ago. Have a few guns in a safe in a house I still own in Seattle.
Wondering with the 594 crap, if a friend can go to a gun shop/ffl and have the guns sent to me using whatever magic FFL's use for this.
Thanks! Craig We've missed you Cowboy. Come visit us up here.
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Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:52 pm |
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dreadi
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Location: Tacoma, Washington Joined: Fri Nov 21, 2014 Posts: 8351
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Bennngeeee wrote: A direct family member may ship them also. Father, mother, son, daughter. Where did you get that information from?
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Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:51 pm |
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deadshot2
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Location: Marysville, WA Joined: Fri Jul 22, 2011 Posts: 11581
Real Name: Mike
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dreadi wrote: Bennngeeee wrote: A direct family member may ship them also. Father, mother, son, daughter. Where did you get that information from? Probably from the fact that direct family members are exempt from 594 when it comes to a "transfer". If I were the OP I'd just buy an old Military footlocker, secure the weapons inside with plenty of "dunnage" and padding, lock it up and check with the airline when flying. If the weapons are smaller just use a smaller container. The cost of a plane ticket would be a whole lot less than a rental car and all the drive time. A fly/drive means a one-way rental and some of them can get pretty expensive with the "drop off charge". Guys who compete take lots of firearms with them as they fly off to matches. Airlines are used to it. Now if you want to bring the safe with you, the airline might complain
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Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:42 am |
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Bennngeeee
Location: Tacoma Joined: Sun Jan 29, 2017 Posts: 95
Real Name: Ben
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dreadi wrote: Bennngeeee wrote: A direct family member may ship them also. Father, mother, son, daughter. Where did you get that information from? Had a shotgun when I moved up here and was told to have my father just slap it in the mail via UPS by the FFLs I was going to deal with. After reading very carefully though the laws it seemed that way as well when it came to "transfers" in both states it was in.
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TINCANBANDIT
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Location: Mohave Valley Arizona Joined: Fri May 20, 2011 Posts: 13371
Real Name: Casey
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this one can twist the mind.....if the friend gains access to the guns, the friend is not in trouble, the owner who gave them access is in violation of 594, but the owner was/is not in Washington, so Washington's law cannot apply to the owner who provided access...amiright?
Also I thought that 594 was only supposed to apply to transfer of ownership not transportation, otherwise UPS, FED-Ex and anyone else involved in the transporting of firearms would be in violation of the law.
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Fri Mar 24, 2017 9:05 am |
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dreadi
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Location: Tacoma, Washington Joined: Fri Nov 21, 2014 Posts: 8351
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Bennngeeee wrote: dreadi wrote: Bennngeeee wrote: A direct family member may ship them also. Father, mother, son, daughter. Where did you get that information from? Had a shotgun when I moved up here and was told to have my father just slap it in the mail via UPS by the FFLs I was going to deal with. After reading very carefully though the laws it seemed that way as well when it came to "transfers" in both states it was in. Interstate transfer of a firearm without an FFL?
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