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CPL delayed for 60 days
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Site Supporter   Location: I-5 /512 Joined: Thu Dec 8, 2011 Posts: 15242 Real Name: chris 
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betcha it will show up fri
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| Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:17 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: NW Montana Joined: Thu Dec 10, 2015 Posts: 1764 Real Name: (Breck)
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I sold my Brother-In-Law a Sig P227. He doesn't have a CPL. He got the go-ahead less than 24 hours after doing the paperwork. This was in So King Co.
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| Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:19 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Tri -Cities Joined: Thu May 23, 2013 Posts: 2798 Real Name: David
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Buick_455 wrote: beckdw wrote: Shit, my dad just got his, Bothell PD mailed it two days after application. I couldn't believe it. Snohomish county intentionally waits the 30 days, bastards. You should definitely press the issue. I would threaten (in a very calm manner of course) with DOL as well as a potential lawsuit. Stir the pot, my guess is they screwed up and won't want the scrutiny. Snohomish County or King County? I filed for mine on a Monday afternoon late the week of Thanksgiving and had it in hand that Saturday in Snohomish County. I was told maybe 2 weeks and it just depends on the mental heath background check. That is what I was told can hold things up. Snohomish told me it would arrive at 30 days, same for my brother on a separate occasion. Didn't come a day sooner. Glad to hear yours was faster. Maybe things have changed. |
| Thu Jan 12, 2017 5:55 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Seattle Joined: Wed Dec 21, 2016 Posts: 765 Real Name: Erik
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OK that was weird, still delayed.
We agreed on the phone that the law makes no provision for a sixty day wait for anyone except out-of-state residents, but their instruction remains to wait 60 days for permanent residents. So I now have to email the King Country legal department... |
| Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:54 am |
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Site Supporter Location: NW Montana Joined: Thu Dec 10, 2015 Posts: 1764 Real Name: (Breck)
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beckdw wrote: Buick_455 wrote: beckdw wrote: Shit, my dad just got his, Bothell PD mailed it two days after application. I couldn't believe it. Snohomish county intentionally waits the 30 days, bastards. You should definitely press the issue. I would threaten (in a very calm manner of course) with DOL as well as a potential lawsuit. Stir the pot, my guess is they screwed up and won't want the scrutiny. Snohomish County or King County? I filed for mine on a Monday afternoon late the week of Thanksgiving and had it in hand that Saturday in Snohomish County. I was told maybe 2 weeks and it just depends on the mental heath background check. That is what I was told can hold things up. Snohomish told me it would arrive at 30 days, same for my brother on a separate occasion. Didn't come a day sooner. Glad to hear yours was faster. Maybe things have changed. Yep. Got mine through Snohomish Co. It arrived on the 30th day. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
| Thu Jan 12, 2017 10:00 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Index Joined: Thu Aug 23, 2012 Posts: 12963 Real Name: Jeff
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Breck wrote: beckdw wrote: Buick_455 wrote: beckdw wrote: Shit, my dad just got his, Bothell PD mailed it two days after application. I couldn't believe it. Snohomish county intentionally waits the 30 days, bastards. You should definitely press the issue. I would threaten (in a very calm manner of course) with DOL as well as a potential lawsuit. Stir the pot, my guess is they screwed up and won't want the scrutiny. Snohomish County or King County? I filed for mine on a Monday afternoon late the week of Thanksgiving and had it in hand that Saturday in Snohomish County. I was told maybe 2 weeks and it just depends on the mental heath background check. That is what I was told can hold things up. Snohomish told me it would arrive at 30 days, same for my brother on a separate occasion. Didn't come a day sooner. Glad to hear yours was faster. Maybe things have changed. Yep. Got mine through Snohomish Co. It arrived on the 30th day. Same here. Got one, many years ago. Let it lapse. Got one again, a few years ago. (Expires this year. Glad I looked!.) Both times they let me know it would be the full 30 days. And both times it came on the last day possible. Snohomish county. Maybe it's different in different parts of the county? _________________ -Jeff How can I help you, and/or make you smile, today? You are entitled to your opinion. You are not entitled to tell me what mine must be. Do justice. Love mercy. “I would rather have questions that can't be answered than answers that can't be questioned.” ~ Richard P. Feynman |
| Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:27 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Rochester, WA Joined: Thu Mar 10, 2016 Posts: 3761 Real Name: Mr. Idgaf
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You guys in SnohoCo going through the Sherrif's office or a PD?
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| Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:39 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Seattle Joined: Wed Dec 21, 2016 Posts: 765 Real Name: Erik
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So got a response from DOL, they referenced the same plain text of the law regarding maximum allowed issuing time.
I called the King County Courthouse one last time in a last ditch attempt to sort it out, and it's not going to happen today as it requires instruction from their legal dept., but I am actually confident this is an honest mistake and hopefully nobody else (ie. my wife) will have to go through a purposeful delay beyond the maximum allowed by law. |
| Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:39 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Index Joined: Thu Aug 23, 2012 Posts: 12963 Real Name: Jeff
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jdhbulseye wrote: You guys in SnohoCo going through the Sherrif's office or a PD? Sheriffs department. _________________ -Jeff How can I help you, and/or make you smile, today? You are entitled to your opinion. You are not entitled to tell me what mine must be. Do justice. Love mercy. “I would rather have questions that can't be answered than answers that can't be questioned.” ~ Richard P. Feynman |
| Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:41 pm |
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In Memoriam  Joined: Wed Mar 6, 2013 Posts: 12018
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PinSniper wrote: So got a response from DOL, they referenced the same plain text of the law regarding maximum allowed issuing time. I called the King County Courthouse one last time in a last ditch attempt to sort it out, and it's not going to happen today as it requires instruction from their legal dept., but I am actually confident this is an honest mistake and hopefully nobody else (ie. my wife) will have to go through a purposeful delay beyond the maximum allowed by law. It's a bummer that you have to be delayed, but I appreciate your efforts to get them straightened up on their misreading. Thank you for advancing the cause!  |
| Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:09 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Seattle Joined: Wed Dec 21, 2016 Posts: 765 Real Name: Erik
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PMB wrote: PinSniper wrote: So got a response from DOL, they referenced the same plain text of the law regarding maximum allowed issuing time. I called the King County Courthouse one last time in a last ditch attempt to sort it out, and it's not going to happen today as it requires instruction from their legal dept., but I am actually confident this is an honest mistake and hopefully nobody else (ie. my wife) will have to go through a purposeful delay beyond the maximum allowed by law. It's a bummer that you have to be delayed, but I appreciate your efforts to get them straightened up on their misreading. Thank you for advancing the cause! Absolutely. In my mind I've already set aside a budget to take the issue further and have a list of people and organizations that I think would be able to put me in touch with a civil rights lawyer. It's still saddening that many refer to the maximum times allowed for them to issue as "waiting" periods. It's really a hard stop SLA but with no consequence to them, they clearly are playing slow and loose with the law. |
| Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:21 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Seattle Joined: Wed Dec 21, 2016 Posts: 765 Real Name: Erik
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We should definitely put together something for constitutional carry!
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| Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:22 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Monroe Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2011 Posts: 1016
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Breck wrote: beckdw wrote: Buick_455 wrote: beckdw wrote: Shit, my dad just got his, Bothell PD mailed it two days after application. I couldn't believe it. Snohomish county intentionally waits the 30 days, bastards. You should definitely press the issue. I would threaten (in a very calm manner of course) with DOL as well as a potential lawsuit. Stir the pot, my guess is they screwed up and won't want the scrutiny. Snohomish County or King County? I filed for mine on a Monday afternoon late the week of Thanksgiving and had it in hand that Saturday in Snohomish County. I was told maybe 2 weeks and it just depends on the mental heath background check. That is what I was told can hold things up. Snohomish told me it would arrive at 30 days, same for my brother on a separate occasion. Didn't come a day sooner. Glad to hear yours was faster. Maybe things have changed. Yep. Got mine through Snohomish Co. It arrived on the 30th day. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1st time was Snohomish County in 2010 only took 2 or 3 days and recently was local PD |
| Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:17 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Marysville Joined: Tue Jun 18, 2013 Posts: 239 Real Name: GumEBare
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Buick_455 wrote: beckdw wrote: Shit, my dad just got his, Bothell PD mailed it two days after application. I couldn't believe it. Snohomish county intentionally waits the 30 days, bastards. You should definitely press the issue. I would threaten (in a very calm manner of course) with DOL as well as a potential lawsuit. Stir the pot, my guess is they screwed up and won't want the scrutiny. Snohomish County or King County? I filed for mine on a Monday afternoon late the week of Thanksgiving and had it in hand that Saturday in Snohomish County. I was told maybe 2 weeks and it just depends on the mental heath background check. That is what I was told can hold things up. I have never heard of a mental health background check for a CPL. Is this new, an I ignorant of it, or are you being funny? |
| Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:36 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Olympia Joined: Sat Oct 29, 2011 Posts: 16044 Real Name: Steve
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It's a standard part of the check
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