It actually says they apply to that RCW chapter. Why put them in and then potentially limit it?
And we're going to have an RCW to tell people how to speak?



Right, but that's the kind of stuff that is usually in a bill preamble, but not in the codified changes.

This initiative has fail written all over it because it has too much random stuff in it, the same reason the background check bill failed.

There should just be a really short initiative to make clear that any federal law that limits the type of guns or magazines beyond what is allowed under state law can not be enforced in WA. All the other stuff is window dressing.

And all of the mental health stuff seems way too preemptive. A better system needs to evolve, no one has produced it yet. I think there needs to be a better flow of information to NICS on people with serious mental health issues, not just an imminent danger. Someone who has psychotic episodes may not have demonstrated an imminent danger, but I am not crazy about them having access to firearms. Right now the state law is really clear (9.41.040), and there's a process. As long as that remains in place, or is carefully amended, there's no privacy risk.

But anyway, best of luck.

What are you trying to achieve?

This isn't a draft for revision, this is the initiative. It's currently on the street getting signatures. Is it perfect? No. There will never be a single Initiative written that will appease 100% of the people out there. The key is, to you, is there more pro than con in there? For me, there is, and that is why I support I-1307.

Agreed! We have a long road ahead of us trying to get back the freedoms that have been stripped over the last 80 years.

Freedom and Liberty! What are you trying to achieve?

I'm not trying to be critical, but I think this proposal needs to be revised by someone with a legal background before it has a chance of being passed, the wording is all imprecise and not specific enough for legal revision to the RCW.

Hey, maybe we should each write our own initiative and see how many signatures we get.

No law is perfect. Even Founding Fathers knew the Constitution wasn't perfect. But, it's a start. Just because we have this initiative moving forward, doesn't mean it cannot be ratified later. You see, I've been in this shit since December. I was drafting, writing, re-writing, adding things, subtracting crap, and finally came up with this imperfect initiative.

It's not perfect, but let me ask you this; what have you done to protect your Rights, Freedoms, and Liberties? Did you write a piece of legislation? Did you meet at the rallies? Did you research laws? Have you done anything but be an internet ninja lawyer?

All I'm asking for is support through gathering signatures, printing initiative papers, giving/gathering donations, spreading the word to family, friends, and supporters. If I've done 95% of the work for you, will you do the 5% we need to get this on the ballot this year?

Don't get me wrong, I believe wholeheartedly in the premise. It's the execution that makes me doubt it's prospects. I really hope this gets people inspired enough actively pursue similar proposals in the future.
Hopefully the combination of this kind of dedication, paired with future acceptance of the necessity to have professional legal revision of legislative proposals, will have us changing laws for the better in the long run.

No law is perfect. Even Founding Fathers knew the Constitution wasn't perfect. But, it's a start. Just because we have this initiative moving forward, doesn't mean it cannot be ratified later. You see, I've been in this shit since December. I was drafting, writing, re-writing, adding things, subtracting crap, and finally came up with this imperfect initiative.

It's not perfect, but let me ask you this; what have you done to protect your Rights, Freedoms, and Liberties? Did you write a piece of legislation? Did you meet at the rallies? Did you research laws? Have you done anything but be an internet ninja lawyer?

This isn't perfect, but it's a start for the PEOPLE of Washington to take a stand against the obammy/boomberg/franken-stein war machine! I have done 100% of the research, drafting, writing, filing, donation gathering, and giving positive motivation and thanks since December of 2012.

All I'm asking for is support through gathering signatures, printing initiative papers, giving/gathering donations, spreading the word to family, friends, and supporters. If I've done 95% of the work for you, will you do the 5% we need to get this on the ballot this year?