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The 4 basic food groups.
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Site Supporter   Location: Apple Country! Joined: Thu Apr 12, 2012 Posts: 4578 Real Name: J 
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 There are 4 firearms that every home should contain.
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| Sat Jul 23, 2016 7:29 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Marysville, WA Joined: Fri Jul 22, 2011 Posts: 11581 Real Name: Mike
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You've overlooked a .30 cal that can reach out over half a mile with accuracy and knock down power. A good bolt action should be in every safe.
_________________ "I've learned from the Dog that an afternoon nap is a good thing" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "For he to-day that sheds his blood with me Shall be my brother" - William Shakespeare |
| Sun Jul 24, 2016 5:41 am |
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Site Admin   Location: Renton, WA Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 Posts: 52067 Real Name: Steve
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What a fascinating photo....
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| Sun Jul 24, 2016 7:30 am |
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Site Supporter Location: Apple Country! Joined: Thu Apr 12, 2012 Posts: 4578 Real Name: J
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deadshot2 wrote: You've overlooked a .30 cal that can reach out over half a mile with accuracy and knock down power. A good bolt action should be in every safe. This is true, but it does not need to be a bolt action at all. The idea here is the absolute basics, covering each group. Rifle, Shotgun, Pistol, Rimfire. A good bolt action is worthless without skill behind it. The idea is hunting, survival, personal defense, and militia. Least my thoughts on it. Besides this is me, it wouldn't ever be .30. It would be 6.5!  _________________ "Guns are dangerous." -Massivedesign |
| Sun Jul 24, 2016 7:54 am |
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Site Supporter / FFL Dealer  Location: Seattle Joined: Fri Oct 28, 2011 Posts: 3420
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I understand that many people had 10/22 as their first gun, but I wouldn't recommend it as a best representative for a rimfire rifle group.
Here's my version of the list above: Savage MKII FV/CZ 452 CZ 75BD/Sig p226 + 22 conversion kit Smith&Wesson 686/629 Savage 10fp-sr AR-15/AK-47 Remington 870 with various barrels |
| Sun Jul 24, 2016 8:32 am |
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Site Supporter Location: Apple Country! Joined: Thu Apr 12, 2012 Posts: 4578 Real Name: J
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solyanik wrote: I understand that many people had 10/22 as their first gun, but I wouldn't recommend it as a best representative for a rimfire rifle group. Here's my version of the list above: Savage MKII FV/CZ 452 CZ 75BD/Sig p226 + 22 conversion kit Smith&Wesson 686/629 Savage 10fp-sr AR-15/AK-47 Remington 870 with various barrels I love the MkII. Incredibly accurate low cost bolt gun. I hem and haw over that, but the convinence of the semi auto is nothing to shake a stick at. A 10/22 can be as accurate as a MKII, while being semi auto. And The 10FP... Well If you can find an original.  _________________ "Guns are dangerous." -Massivedesign |
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Site Supporter  Location: SUNNY SW WA COAST NEAR ILWACO Joined: Sat Nov 12, 2011 Posts: 1134 Real Name: Ratchet Thunderfuk
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VEPR .308
Rem. 700 5R .308 Saiga 12 Glock 20 Fuck the 22lr _________________ Si vis pacem fac bellum |
| Sun Jul 24, 2016 9:40 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: East of Japan, not by much. Joined: Fri Jun 3, 2011 Posts: 12990
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Shoot, I thought you meant real food, and the only four things that matter.
Fat, salt, sugar, and alcohol. _________________ Give a man a fish, and he will eat for a day. Give a man a fishing pole, and he will drink too much beer, get tangled in fish line, hook himself in the nose casting, fall overboard, and either drown, or, go home hungry and wet. Give a man a case of dynamite, and he will feed the whole town for a year! BE ON NOTICE: PRIVACY NOTICE: Warning - any person and/or institution and/or Agent and/or Agency of any governmental structure including but not limited to the United States Federal Government also using or monitoring/using this website or any of its associated websites, you do NOT have my permission to utilize any of my profile information nor any of the content contained herein including, but not limited to my photos, and/or the comments made about my photos or any other "picture" art posted on my profile. You are hereby notified that you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing, disseminating, or taking any other action against me with regard to this profile and the contents herein. The foregoing prohibitions also apply to your employee, agent, student or any personnel under your direction or control. The contents of this profile are PRIVATE and legally privileged and confidential information, and the violation of my personal privacy is punishable by law. UCC 1-103 1-308 ALL RIGHTS RESERVED WITHOUT PREJUDICE |
| Sun Jul 24, 2016 10:14 am |
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Site Supporter Location: Apple Country! Joined: Thu Apr 12, 2012 Posts: 4578 Real Name: J
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RENCORP wrote: Shoot, I thought you meant real food, and the only four things that matter. Fat, salt, sugar, and alcohol. Funny way of saying Lead, Copper, Brass, and Steel. _________________ "Guns are dangerous." -Massivedesign |
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Site Supporter Location: Apple Country! Joined: Thu Apr 12, 2012 Posts: 4578 Real Name: J
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 _________________ "Guns are dangerous." -Massivedesign |
| Sun Jul 24, 2016 8:30 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Marysville, WA Joined: Fri Jul 22, 2011 Posts: 11581 Real Name: Mike
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root wrote: This is true, but it does not need to be a bolt action at all. Maybe so, but a good bolt action can shoot groups inside the best semi auto long range groups. I always liked the idea of hitting any target that could shoot back at me well before the sound made it there. And not have to do it with multiple shots. No issues with 6.5's but .308 ammo and bullets are a lot more plentiful. Can even find .308 in foreign countries.  _________________ "I've learned from the Dog that an afternoon nap is a good thing" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "For he to-day that sheds his blood with me Shall be my brother" - William Shakespeare |
| Mon Jul 25, 2016 6:47 am |
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Site Supporter Location: Apple Country! Joined: Thu Apr 12, 2012 Posts: 4578 Real Name: J
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deadshot2 wrote: root wrote: This is true, but it does not need to be a bolt action at all. Maybe so, but a good bolt action can shoot groups inside the best semi auto long range groups. I always liked the idea of hitting any target that could shoot back at me well before the sound made it there. And not have to do it with multiple shots. No issues with 6.5's but .308 ammo and bullets are a lot more plentiful. Can even find .308 in foreign countries. I would say yoh are wrong there. There is no real functional difference in accuracy with a bolt gun and a well built semi auto these days. I know of a few guys on this board who have built ARs that will put rounds inside of half a dime. Long gone are the days of oprods. [emoji12] _________________ "Guns are dangerous." -Massivedesign |
| Mon Jul 25, 2016 8:02 am |
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Site Supporter Location: SUNNY SW WA COAST NEAR ILWACO Joined: Sat Nov 12, 2011 Posts: 1134 Real Name: Ratchet Thunderfuk
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root wrote: deadshot2 wrote: root wrote: This is true, but it does not need to be a bolt action at all. Maybe so, but a good bolt action can shoot groups inside the best semi auto long range groups. I always liked the idea of hitting any target that could shoot back at me well before the sound made it there. And not have to do it with multiple shots. No issues with 6.5's but .308 ammo and bullets are a lot more plentiful. Can even find .308 in foreign countries. I would say yoh are wrong there. There is no real functional difference in accuracy with a bolt gun and a well built semi auto these days. I know of a few guys on this board who have built ARs that will put rounds inside of half a dime. Long gone are the days of oprods. [emoji12] You don't have to build them, you can buy them, affordably. Rock River AR10 has a 1MOA guarantee. I have the LAR-8 predator model and with match ammo it will hit golf balls at 200 yards and clay pigeons at 500 yards. Seems accurate enough for most people. It is a select few that can shoot that well to start with regardless of the equipment. _________________ Si vis pacem fac bellum |
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I like this thread.
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| Mon Jul 25, 2016 10:31 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Lacey/Olympia/JBLM Joined: Tue May 10, 2011 Posts: 3111 Real Name: Marco
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"The LORD God made all kinds of trees grow out of the ground--trees that were pleasing to the eye and good for food. In the middle of the garden were the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil."
 1.GLOCK 17 2.AR-15 .223 3.Remington 700 .308 4.Remington 870 12 GA _________________ "Dedication, perseverance, commitment and tenacity are the traits you will find in those who finish and achieve their dreams." There are times when the situation as it occurs, dictates the course of actions that follow. "I stand for the National Anthem, always have, always will" On days like this, I often wonder what Gary Gordon and Randy Shughart would do... |
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