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That is a handsome Glock, Steve!

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^ Wow . . . that's a good-looking couple. :bow:

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Just recently finished a shotgun project.

Originally bought a used left-hand, 12ga, 2-3/4" chamber Remington 870 Wingmaster with 18" smooth bore slug barrel several years ago at Cascade Firearms in Olympia. Came with wood furniture and a short mag tube as all factory sporting guns from the time of manufacture do (the gun was made in late 1980's per serial number lookup). Over several years I reconfigured the whole ball of wax into my dream HD shotgun:
- Bill Springfield trigger job (just mailed the trigger group alone)
- Wilson Combat Magazine Extension Tube, 2-Shot, No Sling attachment
- Mesa Tactical Magazine Clamp with Picatinny Rail
- Elzetta Mini CQB weapon light
- Big Dot XS Express Night Sights for rapid target acquisition at close distances
- Mesa Tactical LEO Telescoping Stock Adapter
- Mesa Tactical / Enidine Shot-Shok hydraulic recoil buffer
- Magpul CTR Stock
- Hogue Fore-end Grip
- Hogue Pistol Grip
- Vang Comp Big Dot Safety
- Mesa Tactical Receiver-Back Ambi Hook Loop Sling Attachment
- GG&G Tactical Rem 870 Front Looped Sling Attachment
- Cross-Tac Tactical Ambi Sling

Also just recently had a local guy do a Gun Kote matte black finish treatment. In the near future I'll pick up an SOE shotgun card for receiver mounted reloads.

It's been a great gun for running defensive shotgun classes at FAS in Onalaska. Will be taking some more training classes with it here in Tejas over the next year.

Next shotgun will likely be a Beretta 1301 Tactical though that will certainly be a year or two in the future still.
In the next couple weeks heading for a full day of range testing to pattern various types of 00 buckshot to figure out optimum feeding habits for my little critter.

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That's a good looking setup.

I probably shoot trap more than anything else. That's led me to setup my HD shotgun differently. I really need to revisit that and take some classes with it.

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^ Wow . . . that's a good-looking couple. :bow:

And if that was meant for me...thanks!!


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^ Wow . . . that's a good-looking couple. :bow:

And if that was meant for me...thanks!!


It was . . . damn tannardog got in my way. :cussing: :wink05:

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Nice 870 Andrew, yours?

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Yeah, mine. Not an 870 though, S&W 3000. The first and IMO the best of the 870 clones. Fit and finish is remarkable. My understanding is that the 3000 was made as a competitor to the 870 in the Police gun market, but all Smith did was make an 870 that might take some proprietary parts, or might not. Very little concrete information around on what fits and doesn`t, so I`m thinking about seeing if I can borrow and 870 from someone so I can make my own list. Still, it was a police gun (Portland, OR) and it shows. Plenty of scratches around and a sizable nick in the muzzle mostly. I think the nick is from it falling barrel first on something hard like concrete or pavement.

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Nice Andrew. Learned something new today. Was totally unaware that S&W ever made Remington 870 clones. The old Wingmaster and Police models in particular are fantastic guns.

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RocketScott wrote:

That's a good looking setup.

I probably shoot trap more than anything else. That's led me to setup my HD shotgun differently. I really need to revisit that and take some classes with it.

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Thanks RS. It's been a very long time coming together and for awhile was a hodgepodge of factory blued parts and aftermarket matte black parts that I finally just refinished the entire gun recently :bigsmile:

Trap is a ton of fun. Recently sold off a Winchester Diamond Grade O/U with two barrel set as I just haven't been doing much clay pigeon shooting. Eventually I'd like to pick up a nice Browning or Beretta for five stand and sporting clays.

Training classes are a blast. FAS hosts a very good series of defensive shotgun courses with some shooting on paper for patterning and a lot of shooting on steel to push your speed shooting. Also a good mix of shooting slugs at various distances with quite a bit of buckshot and birdshot as well. Round counts are pretty high in two day classes. I have pretty bony shoulders so use the law enforcement / reduced recoil 2-3/4" rounds and also the Enidine Shot-Shok works like a champ. A lot of guys shoot semi-autos in defensive training as well and they can be great guns if you choose carefully. Some are picky about cycling with the low-brass, reduced recoil rounds popular for self-defense applications. The upside is the action substantially reduces recoil for those recoil-sensitive among us (myself included).

Also the AR style buttstock was a good solution for me. I have very long arms and my traditional LOP is around 15.5". So with the AR buttstock I can adjust it right out to my own custom LOP, typically longest setting. No need to play around with a fixed stock and creating the necessary LOP with buttstock spacers and recoil pad combos.

In classes you'll learn a ton and also quickly figure out what works well on your setup and what is sub-optimal / needs tweaking.

I'm overdue to take some refresher training plus shotguns are just a blast to shoot so classes are a lot of fun.

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GeekWithGuns wrote:
Nice Andrew. Learned something new today. Was totally unaware that S&W ever made Remington 870 clones. The old Wingmaster and Police models in particular are fantastic guns.

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The 3000s were made in Japan by Howa, my research shows. Considering they used to make products for Browning, I`m not at all surprised at how smooth and nicely fitted everything is. I`d like to get an extended magazine tube for it but I have conflicting reports on if 870 extensions fit or not. The only 100% surefire fit is an original Smith, but there`s only one source; some little mom-and-pop gunshop in Texas sells every last spring and pin for these.

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